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		<title>Srila Prabhupada Said: “Arsha-Prayoga”</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[“So unless one is self-realized, there is practically no use writing about Krsna. This transcendental writing does not depend on material education. It depends on the spiritual realization. You’ll find, therefore, in the comments of Bhagavatam by different acaryas, even there are some discrepancies, they are accepted as asat-patha [NOTE: "asat-patha" should be transcribed as“Arsha-prayoga”. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“So unless one is self-realized, there is practically no use writing about Krsna. <strong>This transcendental writing does not depend on material education. It depends on the spiritual realization</strong>. You’ll find, therefore, in the comments of Bhagavatam by different acaryas, <strong><em>even there are some discrepancies, they are accepted as </em>asat-patha</strong> [<em>NOTE: "</em>asat-patha"<em> should be transcribed as“Arsha-prayoga”. Arsha-prayoga is a Sanskrit word meaning complete acceptance of what is left by the authorities, as it is, without any change at all</em>]<em>. </em><strong><em>It should remain as it is</em></strong>.”</p>
<p>(Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.5.23-24 — Vrndavana, March 31, 1976)</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong><strong>This of should be strictly forbidden.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Radha-vallabha:</strong> <strong>So no corrections. That makes it simple.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> They can divide the synonyms. That’s all.</p>
<p><strong>Radha-vallabha:</strong> Synonyms. So even…</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> <strong>That is his tendency, to correct. That’s very bad. He should not do that.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Radha-vallabha:</strong> So I’ll just forget this, then.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> <strong>The system is: whatever authority has done, even there is mistake, it should be accepted.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Radha-vallabha:</strong> Oh.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> Asa-praya(?) [<em>NOTE: "</em>Asa-praya(?)"<em> should be transcribed as“Arsha-prayoga”</em>] <strong>That is ha… He should not become more learned than the authority. That is very bad habit….</strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada: </strong><strong>Why finish it? Whatever is done is done. No more….</strong></p>
<p><strong>Radha-vallabha:</strong> <strong>Well, now that this system of no corrections anywhere, that makes it very simple. Then he can’t do anything.</strong> I don’t think he wants to, either. It makes it more simple for him. It makes him very uncomfortable.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> <strong>No corrections.</strong></p>
<p>(February 28, 1977, Mayapura)</p>
<p>In the first quote above from Vrndavan, when listening to the audio one can hear that the transcription is clearly wrong. Prabhupada is transcribed as saying “asat-patha” but if you listen to the audio closely you will hear Srila Prabhupada clearly says “arsha-prayoga” <em>not</em> asat-patha. Also the words asat-patha make no sense in this context but the words  arsha-prayoga make perfect sense.</p>
<p>On the second above quote from Mayapur, I could not find the audio for this, but considering that (as per my knowledge) the words arsha-prayoga are not used by Srila Prabhupada on a daily basis, it goes to reason that the transcriber may not have been familiar with them. Not understanding those words the transcriber typed in “Asa-praya(?)” with a question mark afterwords to indicate his failure to understand what Srila Prabhupada said.</p>
<p>According to Satsvarupa Prabhu in his Prabhupada Lilamrita he also informs us that Srila Prabhupada said arsha-prayoga establishing a no change policy:</p>
<p>But one day while sitting in the garden with Tamala Krsna, Svarupa Damodara, and others, Srila Prabhupada became very disturbed when he detected a mistake in one of his already printed books. Tamala Krsna was reading aloud a verse from the First Canto which began, “Munayah sadhu prsto ‘ham.” Srila Prabhupada had him read the synonyms.</p>
<p>Tamala Krsna read: “munayah-O sages; sadhu-this is relevant; prstah-questioned… ”</p>
<p>“Sadhu?” asked Srila Prabhupada. Thus he uncovered a thoughtless mistake made by the Sanskrit editors. Sadhu means “devotee,” not “this is relevant.” Srila Prabhupada became very angry and denounced the “rascal Sanskrit scholars.” “A little learning,” he said “is dangerous. Immediately they think they have become big scholar, thinking, “I shall arrange!’ And then they write all nonsense.” He continued speaking about the mistake for half an hour. He was disturbed. He ordered Tamala Krsna to write at once to the BBT and <strong>stop these speculations by his disciples-changing his books in the name of editing</strong> The devotees were startled to see Prabhupada so angry; he was supposed to be peacefully relishing a Srimad-Bhagavatam reading here in his garden. <strong>Such a change was very serious</strong>, he said, because it changed the meaning. “Even if the authorized acaryas would make a mistake,” he said, “it would not be changed. This is <strong>arsa-prayoga</strong>. In this way the acaryas are honored.”</p>
<p>(Srila Prabhupada Lilamrita, chapter 52 “I Have Done My Part”)</p>
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		<title>Prabhupada Ordered &#8220;No Changes!&#8221; to Krsna Book and Caitanya-caritamrta</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Soon after the intense marathon for completing the publication of Caitanya Caritamrita, Radhaballabha prabhu approached Srila Prabhupada and mentioned that the artists are now completing the paintings in preparation for the second printing. To this, Srila Prabhupada replied “No changes”. A further attempt was made to explain, stating that there were to be no actual changes, but that the same painting would simply be completed because there was insufficient time during the marathon, and that the paintings were actually published in an unfinished state. Srila Prabhupada replied to him again, “NO changes”.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><cite></cite>Dear Vaishnavas, please accept my humble respects.</div>
<p>I have just read this article about changes in the KRSNA Book. Although I am rarely surprised by anything anymore, still I was surprised by the article’s description about the volume of changes to the literature of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. I have heard all the many excuses over the years for making changes, which from the external perspective may seem logical, but these delusions cannot replace the desire of Srila Prabhupada in this connection.</p>
<p>With specific regards to the KRSNA book, during his physical presence, Srila Prabhupada would not even allow so much as a picture to be changed. Why then, when our mundane eyes can no longer perceive him, are so many changes going on?</p>
<p>For many years, I was in close contact with Radhaballabha dasa, who was the production manager for producing Srila Prabhupada’s books. A couple of years after Srila Prabhupada’s departure, around 1980, Radhaballabha Prabhu related to me an experience he had with Srila Prabhupada regarding book changes.</p>
<p>Soon after the intense marathon for completing the publication of Caitanya Caritamrita, Radhaballabha prabhu approached Srila Prabhupada and mentioned that the artists are now completing the paintings in preparation for the second printing. To this, Srila Prabhupada replied “No changes”. A further attempt was made to explain, stating that there were to be no actual changes, but that the same painting would simply be completed because there was insufficient time during the marathon, and that the paintings were actually published in an unfinished state. Srila Prabhupada replied to him again, “NO changes”.</p>
<p>Confused by Srila Prabhupada’s previous responses, Radhaballabha again tried to explain the situation. The short time frame of the publication marathon had prevented the paintings from being completed. They were now to be finished by the artists, re-photographed and in the next printing, the same picture, same size, everything the same except for the finishing touches, would be placed in the exact same spot in the book. Srila Prabhupada now appeared angered and replied again, but this time more forcefully, “NO CHANGES!!!”.</p>
<p>humbly,<br />
Mithiladhisa dasa</p>
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		<title>Who is Qualified to Write Transcendental Literatures?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Srila Prabhupada on who is qualified to write transcendental literature: These days many ISKCON devotees are publishing their own books, making their own translations and commentaries on Sanskrit or Bengali texts, or editing Prabhupada’s books I have no problems with devotee’s translating books into English that were not done by Srila Prabhupada. What must be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Srila Prabhupada on who is qualified to write transcendental literature:</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p>These days many ISKCON devotees are publishing their own books, making their own translations and commentaries on Sanskrit or Bengali texts, or editing Prabhupada’s books</p>
<p>I have no problems with devotee’s translating books into English that were not done by Srila Prabhupada. What must be considered is: if we accept Srila Prabhupada as a guru or acharya then we must accept what he said about who is qualified and who is not to do this seva.</p>
<p>One effect of this flood of new books by various devotees is that if you go to an ISKCON event or temple and visit the book table often one finds that these books are more prominently displayed and distributed than Srila Prabhupada’s books. Also when you get a book that has Prabhupada’s name on it as the translator and author the words contained in it, are not approved of by Prabhupada due to content being changed by conditioned souls even after his clear instructions where given to not change it.</p>
<p>In this article we are going to discover directly from Srila Prabhupada what the qualifications are that one must have to write transcendental literature. On this same note when one edits a book rearranging or removing words that were approved by the acharya and uttama-adhikari devotee and replaces them with words that are of ones own choosing according to ones own mind and senses the same principals and rules apply.</p>
<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span><span><strong>Do Not Repeat What the Previous Acharyas Have Already Done:</strong></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span>This is a matter of etiquette. </span><span><strong>If a previous acarya has already written about something, there is no need to repeat it</strong></span><span> for personal sense gratification or to outdo the previous acarya. Unless there is some definite improvement, </span><span><strong>one should not repeat</strong></span><span>. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Madhya 12.151</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>So Vyasadeva is the spiritual master. So </span><span><strong>the later acaryas, they did not think it proper that whatever the… Because their spiritual master has had already made a commentary on the </strong></span><span><em><strong>Vedanta-sutra</strong></em></span><span><strong>, “Oh, that is sufficient. Why should we do again?”</strong></span><span><strong>These are some of the etiquette. </strong></span><span>(</span><span>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 22.21-28 — New York, January 11, 1967</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>O</span><span>ne cannot defy the previous acaryas. </span><span><strong>The false pride that makes one think that he can write better than the previous acaryas will make one’s comments faulty.</strong></span><span> At the present moment it has become fashionable for everyone to write in his own way, but such writing is never accepted by serious devotees. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Antya 7.134)</span></span></p>
<p>Many devotees are writing their own (or editing Srila Prabhupada‘s) <em>Bhagavad-Gita</em>, I guess they have not read these verses from the <em>Caitanya-caritamrta</em>? Or maybe they feel that Srila Prabhupada is not competent in his translations. They obviously consider that there is something lacking in Srila Prabhuapda’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> and believe they can make a better translation and commentary on the <em>Gita</em> than Prabhupada. A mood such as this, where one intentionally or unintentionally may impertinently put forward presentations that overstep or out do the previous acharya simply show that they are not qualified to write transcendental literature.</p>
<p>In this regard one may refer to the Srimad Bhagavatam 3.4.26 where Srila Prabhupada warns his followers of the offense called maryada-vyatikrama “Although one may be well versed in the transcendental science, one should be careful about the offense of maryada-vyatikrama, or <strong>impertinently surpassing a greater personality</strong>. According to scriptural injunction one should be very careful of transgressing the law of maryada-vyatikrama because by so doing <strong>one loses his duration of life, his opulence, fame and piety and the blessings of all the world</strong>…. The rule is that in the presence of a higher personality one should not be very eager to impart instructions, even if one is competent and well versed.”</p>
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<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span><span><strong>Not Possible Unless Authorized by Superior Authorities</strong></span></span><span><span><strong>:</strong></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>One cannot write on spiritual matters without being blessed by Krsna and the disciplic succession of gurus</strong></span></span><span>. The blessings of the authorities are one’s power of attorney. </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>One should not try to write anything about Vaisnava behavior and activities without being authorized by superior authorities.</strong></span></span><span>This is confirmed in </span><span><em>Bhagavad-gita</em></span><span>: </span><span><em>evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh</em></span><span>. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Madhya 24.345</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>Without Your mercy such poetic expressions would be </span><span><em><strong>impossible for an ordinary living being to write</strong></em></span><span>. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Antya 1.196</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span><span><strong>Not Possible Unless One is a Pure Unalloyed Devotee of Krishna</strong></span></span><span><span><strong>:</strong></span></span></span></span></p>
<p>Writing transcendental literature is not something an ordinary devotee can do. Only a pure unalloyed advanced devotee of Krishna has the power to write transcendental literature and anyone who has read Srila Prabhuapda’s books must know this for he stresses this point in many places:</p>
<p><span><span><strong>The writing of Vaisnava literatures is not a function for ordinary men</strong></span><span>. Vaisnava literatures are not mental concoctions. They are all authorized literature meant to guide those who are going to be Vaisnavas. Under these circumstances, </span><span><strong>an ordinary man cannot give his own opinion.</strong></span><span> His opinion must always correspond with the conclusion of the Vedas. Unless one is fully qualified in Vaisnava behavior and authorized by superior authority (the Supreme Personality of Godhead), </span><span><strong>one cannot write Vaisnava literatures or purports and commentaries on Srimad-Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita. </strong></span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Madhya 24.326</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span><strong>“The words spoken by the Lord are different from words spoken by a person of the mundane world</strong></span><span> who is infected with four defects. A mundaner </span></span></p>
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<li><span><span>is sure to commit mistakes,</span></span></li>
<li><span><span>is invariably illusioned, </span></span></li>
<li><span><span>has the tendency to cheat others and </span></span></li>
<li><span><span>is limited by imperfect senses.<span>With these four imperfections, one cannot deliver perfect information of all-pervading knowledge. Vedic knowledge is not imparted by such defective living entities….</span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>One cannot say anything about the transcendental world without being free from materially contaminated consciousness.</strong></span></span><span>” </span><span>(</span><span>Introduction to Gitopanisad</span><span>)</span> </span></span></li>
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<p><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Unless one is a fully unalloyed devotee</strong></span> of the Lord, one should <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>not try to describe the pastimes of Krsna in poetry</strong></span><strong>, for it will be only mundane. There are many descriptions of Krsna’s </strong><em><strong>Bhagavad-gita</strong></em><strong> written by persons whose consciousness is mundane and who are </strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>not qualified by pure devotion</strong></span><strong>.</strong> Although they attempted to write transcendental literature, they could not fully engage even a single devotee in Krsna’s service. <strong>Such literature is mundane</strong>, and therefore, as warned by Sri Sanatana Gosvami, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>one should not touch it. </strong></span>(Antya 1.212)</span></span></p>
<p>Here Srila Prabhupada stresses that only a pure unalloyed advanced devotee can write transcendental literature and if a devotee who is not a very highly advanced being free from materially contaminated consciousness tries to write such literature it will be mundane and Prabhupada warns us “one should not touch it”.</p>
<p><span><span>Transcendental literature that strictly follows the Vedic principles and the conclusion of the </span><span><em>Puranas</em></span><span> and </span><span>P</span><span><em>ancaratrika-vidhi</em></span><span> can be written only by a pure devotee. </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>It is not possible for a common man to write books on bhakti</strong></span></span><span>, for </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>his writings will not be effective. He may be a very great scholar and may be expert in presenting literature in flowery language, but this is not at all helpful in understanding transcendental literature.</strong></span></span><span><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Even if transcendental literature is written in faulty language, it is acceptable</strong></span></em></span><span><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>if it is written by a devotee</strong></span></em></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>, whereas so-called transcendental literature written by a mundane scholar, even if it is a very highly polished literary presentation, cannot be accepted. The secret in a devotee’s writing is that when he writes about the pastimes of the Lord, the Lord helps him; he does not write alone</strong></span></span><span>. As stated in the </span><span><em>Bhagavad-gita</em></span><span> (10.10), </span><span><em>dadami buddhi-yogam tam yena mam upayanti te</em></span><span>. Since a devotee writes in service to the Lord, the Lord from within gives him so much intelligence that </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>he sits down near the Lord and goes on writing books.</strong></span></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(</span></span><span>Cc. </span><span>Adi 8.39</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>When a pure Vaisnava speaks, he speaks perfectly. How is this? His speech is managed by Krsna Himself from within the heart. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Madhya 8.200</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>No one can learn </span><span><em>Srimad-Bhagavatam</em></span><span> who is associated with persons engaged in sex life. That is the secret of learning </span><span><em>Bhagavatam</em></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Nor can one learn </strong></span></span><span><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Bhagavatam</strong></span></em></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong> from one who interprets the text by his mundane scholarship.</strong></span></span><span> One has to learn </span><span><em>Bhagavatam</em></span><span> from the representative of Sukadeva Gosvami, and no one else, if one at all wants to see Lord Sri Krsna in the pages. That is the process, and there is no alternative. </span><span>(</span><span>SB 1.3.44</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>O</span><span>ne </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">cannot write such transcendental literature by mental speculation</span></span><span>. One who writes about the Supreme Personality of Godhead must be especially favored by the Lord. Simply </span><span><strong>by academic qualifications it is not possible to write such literature. </strong></span><span>(</span><span>Cc. </span><span>Adi 14.1</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>To describe Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu or Lord Sri Krsna, </span><span><strong>one needs supernatural power</strong></span><span>, which is the grace and mercy of the Lord. Without this grace and mercy, one cannot compose transcendental literature. By dint of the grace of the Lord, however, even one who is unfit for a literary career can describe wonderful transcendental topics. (Cc. Adi 13.1)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>Prabhupada: Prepared by nondevotees. How you can expect? </span><span><em>Bhaktya mam abhijanati</em></span><span> [Bg. 18.55]. Without being devotee, who will understand </span><span><em>Bhagavatam</em></span><span>? </span><span><strong>It is not so easy. Big, big panditas, they cannot understand </strong></span><span><em><strong>Bhagavatam</strong></em></span><span><strong> even… </strong></span><span>No, no, that is rubbish. </span><span><strong>They do not </strong></span><span><strong>know </strong></span><span><strong>what is </strong></span><span><em><strong>Bhagavata</strong></em></span><span><strong>. How they will translate?</strong></span><span><strong>Professional translation is not.</strong></span><span><em>Bhagavata-pado giya bhagavata sthane</em></span><span>. “Whose life is </span><span><em>Bhagavata</em></span><span>, go there and read </span><span><em>Bhagavata</em></span><span>.” That is the recommendation. That is the order of Svarupa Damodara Gosvami. </span><span><strong>Ordinary men, what they will understand</strong></span><span>, </span><span><em>Bhagavata</em></span><span>? </span><span><em>Bhagavata</em></span><span> is not for ordinary men. </span><span><em>Paramo nirmatsaranam satam vastavam vastu vedyam atra</em></span><span> [SB 1.1.2]. In the beginning it is said </span><span><strong>unless one is </strong></span><span><em><strong>paramahamsa</strong></em></span><span><strong>, he cannot understand.</strong></span><span><em>Paramo</em></span><span><em>nirmatsaranam</em></span><span>.</span><span>(</span><span>Room Conversation — April 2, 1977, Bombay</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>Such transcendental narrations of the pastimes of the Lord </span><span><strong>can be described only by liberated souls like Vyasadeva and his bona fide representatives who are completely merged in the transcendental loving service of the Lord.</strong></span><span> Only to such devotees do the pastimes of the Lord and their transcendental nature become automatically manifest by dint of devotional service. </span><span><strong>No one else can either know or describe the acts of the Lord, even if they speculate on the subject for many, many years.</strong></span><span> The descriptions of the </span><span><em>Bhagavatam</em></span><span> are so precise and accurate that whatever has been predicted in this great literature about five thousand years ago is now exactly happening. Therefore, the vision of the author comprehends past, present and future. </span><span><strong>Such liberated persons as Vyasadeva are perfect not only by the power of vision and wisdom, but also in aural reception, in thinking, feeling and all other sense activities.</strong></span><span><strong>A liberated person possesses perfect senses</strong></span><span>, and with perfect senses only can one serve the sense-proprietor, Hrsikesa, Sri Krsna the Personality of Godhead. </span><span><em><strong>Srimad-Bhagavatam</strong></em></span><span><strong>, therefore, is the perfect description</strong></span><span> of the all-perfect Personality of Godhead by the all-perfect personality Srila Vyasadeva, the compiler of the </span><span><em>Vedas</em></span><span>. </span><span>(</span><span>SB 1.5.13</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>The secret of success is to </span><span><strong>receive the sound from the right source</strong></span><span> of a bona fide spiritual master. </span><span><strong>Mundane manufactured sound has no potency, and as such, </strong></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>seemingly transcendental sound received from an unauthorized person also has no potency.</strong></span></span><span><em>One should be qualified enough to discern such transcendental potency</em></span><span>, and either by discriminating or by fortunate chance if one is able to receive the transcendental sound from the bona fide spiritual master, his path of liberation is guaranteed. (SB 2.9.8)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span><span><strong>Among</strong></span></span><span><span><strong> Prabhupada’s Disciples Not Many C</strong></span></span><span><span><strong>an</strong></span></span><span><span><strong> Translate Properly</strong></span></span><span><span><strong>:</strong></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span>If somebody has translated properly, it can be published. But <strong>amongst our disciples, I don’t think there are many who can translate properly</strong>….A realized soul, must be. Otherwise, simply by imitating A-B-C-D will not help. My purports are liked by people because it is presented as practical experience….Our translation must be documents. They are not ordinary… One cannot become unless one is very realized. It is not A-B-C-D translation. </span><span>(</span><span>GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada — May 28, 1977, Vrndavana</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span>Unqualified Authors are Condemned:</span></strong></span></span></p>
<p><span><span>The brahmana poet from Bengal was an offender in the estimation of Svarupa Damodara Gosvami, for although the poet had no knowledge of the Absolute Truth, he had nevertheless tried to describe it. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Antya 5.120</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>Y</span><span>ou will attain a hellish destination. You do not know how to describe the Absolute Truth, but nevertheless you have tried to do so. Therefore you must be condemned. </span><span>(Antya 5.120)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span><span><strong>Must Always Remain a Servant of the Acharya</strong></span></span><span><span><strong>:</strong></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span>These so-called scholars and politicians, they have no acarya. Instead of being </span><span><em>amanitvam</em></span><span>, they’re </span><span><em>mani</em></span><span>… “I have become a leader, so whatever I shall say, it will be accepted.” This is going on. Very bad. </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>It is clearly said, </strong></span></span><span style="color: #af2415;"><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>as soon as you give up the acarya system it is rotten.</strong></span></span></span><span><em>Sa kaleneha yogo nastah parantapa</em></span><span>. So things which is rotten, what you’ll get benefit? That is going on. Therefore in spite of so many </span><span><em>Gita</em></span><span> commentators, big, big leaders, scholars, not a single person is converted into a devotee. Not a single person amongst their followers. It’s useless talking. </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Therefore it is forbidden.</strong></span></span><span><em>Avaisnava-mukhodgirnam putam</em></span><span>… Because they are not Vaisnava, politicians and — </span><span><strong>reject them immediately. Immediately. That is the injunction. </strong></span><span><strong>(</strong></span><span>Room Conversation — December 31, 1976, Bombay</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Not By Research Work</strong></span></span></span><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>:</strong></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span>At the end of every chapter, the author admits the value of the disciplic succession. He </span><span><strong>never</strong></span><span> claims to have </span><span><strong>written this transcendental literature by carrying out research work</strong></span><span>… </span><span>This is the way of writing transcendental books, which are never meant for so-called scholars and research workers… In this way the message is transmitted in the bona fide spiritual disciplic succession from bona fide spiritual master to bona fide student… Thus he is able to set forth this transcendental scripture. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Madhya 8.312</span><span>)</span></span></p>
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<p><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Must Not Consider the Opinions of Mundane Scholars or General Public:</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>The simplest thing for human beings is to follow their predecessors. Judgment according to mundane senses is not a very easy process.</strong></span></span><span> Whatever is awakened by attachment to one’s predecessor is the way of devotional service as indicated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. The author says, however, that </span><span><strong>he cannot consider the opinions of those who become attracted or repelled by such things, because one cannot write impartially in that way.</strong></span><span> In other words, the author is stating that he did not inject personal opinion in the </span><span><em>Caitanya-caritamrta</em></span><span>. He has simply described his spontaneous understanding from superiors. </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>If he had been carried away by someone’s likes and dislikes, he could not have written of such a sublime subject matter in such an easy way.</strong></span></span><span>The actual facts are understandable to real devotees. When these facts are recorded, they are very congenial to the devotees, but one who is not a devotee cannot understand. Such is the subject matter for realization. </span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Mundane scholarship and its concomitant attachments and detachments cannot arouse spontaneous love of Godhead. Such love cannot be described by a mundane scholar.</strong></span></span><span>(Cc. M</span><span>adhya 2.87</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p>One of the not very well thought through arguments that inexperienced devotees give for unlimitedly changing Prabhupada’s books is that they will be more acceptable by mundane scholars. This argument is not based on any facts whatsoever because scholars prefer Prabhupada’s original books and do not respect changes to great personalities literary works. Also if we look at the bulk of reviews of  Prabhupada’s books we will find that those reviews are reviews of Srila Prabhupada’s original pre-1978 editions, not the edited editions.  Considering this fact, it is bazar that the editors of the BBT/BBTI claim they are making Srila Prabhupada’s books more acceptable to the likes and dislikes of mundane scholars and their ever changing standards of grammar and rhetoric. Please read on to see What our Acharya Srila Prabhupada has to say about this practice of catering to the constantly changing likes and dislikes of academia and rules of grammar.</p>
<p><span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Srila Kaviraja Gosvami and one who follows in his footsteps do not have to cater to the public.</strong></span></span><span> Their business is simply to satisfy the previous acaryas and describe the pastimes of the Lord. </span><span><strong>One who is able to understand can relish this exalted transcendental literature, which is actually </strong></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>not meant for ordinary persons like scholars and literary men.</strong></span></span><span> Generally, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s pastimes recorded in </span><span><em>Caitanya-caritamrta</em></span><span> are studied in universities and scholastic circles from a literary and historical point of view, but actually </span><span><em><strong>Caitanya-caritamrta</strong></em></span><span><strong> is not a subject matter for</strong></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>research workers or literary scholars</strong></span></span><span>. It is simply meant for those devotees who have dedicated their lives to the service of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. </span><span>(Cc. </span><span>Madhya 2.85</span><span>)</span></span></p>
<p>So the conclusion is that only an advanced pure devotee of Krishna (such as Srila Prabhupada, Krishna das Kaviraj, or the the goswamis of Vrindavan etc)  can write transcendental literature and unqualified authors, editors, or grammarians who attempt to write, comment or edit transcendental literature are condemned. Although these books may be intellectually stimulating, entertaining, thoughtful or contain extensive research, whatever literature they write is contaminated and devoid of any Spiritual potency as Prabhupada says “<strong><em>seemingly transcendental</em></strong> sound received from an unauthorized person also <strong>has no potency</strong>“(SB 2.9.8). Furthermore “Such literature is mundane, and therefore, as warned by Sri Sanatana Gosvami, <strong>one should not touch</strong> it.” (Antya 1.212)</p>
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		<title>Prabhupada Proofread the Gita Galley Proofs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasananda das</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Srimati Govinda dasi, Please accept my humble obeiscances. Srila Prabhupada jayatah. I just came upon this in Folio – SPL Ch 4, “A Summer in Montreal” and I am sending it to you just in case this point is not in your awareness. Brahmananada had just come from Boston: “I came up to show [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Srimati Govinda dasi,</p>
<p>Please accept my humble obeiscances. Srila Prabhupada jayatah.</p>
<p>I just came upon this in Folio – SPL Ch 4, “A Summer in Montreal” and I am<br />
sending it to you just in case this point is not in your awareness.</p>
<p>Brahmananada had just come from Boston:</p>
<p>“I came up to show Prabhupada the galley proofs for both Teachings of Lord<br />
Caitanya and Bhagavad-gita As It Is. I just happened to have both galley<br />
proofs that had arrived. So it was a wonderful thing to bring these galley<br />
proofs to Prabhupada for checking. I was there only for a few days, maybe a<br />
weekend or so. Prabhupada personally read through the entire galleys and<br />
made notations in his own hand. He did the proofreading of the galleys.<br />
Everything was done by Srila Prabhupada. It was a very personal kind of<br />
thing. Of course, that gave Prabhupada great pleasure because he wanted his<br />
books published, and we had started to do it. So Prabhupada took great<br />
pleasure in proofreading those galleys. And he handed them to me, and it was<br />
very wonderful.”</p>
<p>Now everybody knows that Prabhupada never intended his Gita to be abridged.<br />
MacMillan did (abridged it) it for their own reasons. So the Gita here being<br />
referred to is the complete work.</p>
<p>With one exception I am not in touch with any ISKCON or BBT leaders or I<br />
would be copying this to them. But I _have_ copied it to the BBT personnel<br />
on PAMHO’s address list who I am at all familiar with.</p>
<p>Your servant</p>
<p>Rasananda das</p>
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		<title>Gita Cover-Up Alert or Buyer Beware!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interested parties should be made aware that the BBT editors of Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-Gita As It Is have continued editing their own new (2010) paperback edition of their 1983 “revised and enlarged” version. They have removed the notice “Revised and Enlarged” from the face page and left only “Second Edition.” The phrase “with the original [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interested parties should be made aware that the BBT editors of Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-Gita As It Is</em> have continued editing their own new (2010) paperback edition of their 1983 “revised and enlarged” version. They have removed the notice “Revised and Enlarged” from the face page and left only “Second Edition.” The phrase “with the original Sanskrit text, Roman transliteration, English equivalents, translation and elaborate purports” has been omitted. So now, after all the omissions, the face page reads simply “Bhagavad-Gita As It Is, Second Edition, by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.”</p>
<p>Consequently, there is no indication for the prospective buyer that the book is actually a revised version of the original; rather it is made to appear to be simply a re-printing of the original—by the same author! The BBT editors, remaining incognito, continue to plagiarize Srila Prabhupada’s name and fame to lend credibility to their in fact re-written version of the <em>Bhagavad-Gita As It Is</em>, originally designated as the “Complete Edition” by Srila Prabhupada himself.</p>
<p>On the back cover, once again the editors omit an important phrase in the description of Srila Prabhupada as “the leading exponent of the science of Krsna consciousness in the West and the world’s most distinguished teacher of Vedic religion and thought…” And they add a curious sentence in conclusion, which really reflects their own clandestine position: “Thus, unlike other editions of the Gita, his conveys Lord Krsna’s profound message as it is—without the slightest taint of adulteration or personally motivated change.” This is so reminiscent of that well-known story of the man on the second floor of his house hearing a noise downstairs and calling out, “Who’s there?” revealing the actual position, a voice from below answers emphatically, “Oh, I’m not stealing! I’m not stealing!”</p>
<p>Or the time when devotees told Srila Prabhupada about a newspaper article claiming that a space probe to Mars had sent back photographic images that so closely resembled the terrain in Arizona. Srila Prabhupada said the scientists involved were themselves in Arizona, simply revealing their own minds, reflecting their surroundings.</p>
<p>Similarly, these editors, perhaps smarting from unending legitimate criticism, have inadvertently revealed their own position: “Oh no, we have edited responsibly, without the slightest taint of adulteration or personally motivated change!” But they continue to commit what Srila Prabhupada described in the purport Srimad Bhagavatam 3.4.26:</p>
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<ul>“Although one may be well versed in transcendental science, one should be careful about the offense of</ul>
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<p><em>maryada-vyatikrama</em></p>
<ul>, impertinently surpassing a greater personality.”</ul>
<p>The impertinence knows no bounds, because BBT editing has become a co-authoring of Srila Prabhupada’s books. Buyer beware! Milk still looks like milk even when containing poison.</p>
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		<title>Prabhupada Himself Clears It Up</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are a few different points I would like to address in this article. Firstly, in regard to my article called “Can I Trade For That Original One?”, I was just reading Srila Prabhupada’s original Gita and in the preface Srila Prabhupada himself says three times that his finished book is what is to be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few different points I would like to address in this article. Firstly, in regard to my article called <a href="../can-i-trade-for-that-original-one/" target="_blank">“Can I Trade For That Original One?”,</a> I was just reading Srila Prabhupada’s original Gita and in the preface Srila Prabhupada himself says three times that his finished book is what is to be referred to as the original manuscript! So the trickery and word jugglery of calling the drafts manuscripts is cleared up by Srila Prabhupada himself in his 1972 Macmillan Bhagavad-Gita preface:</p>
<p>“Originally I wrote Bhagavad-gita As It Is in the form in which it is presented now. When this book was first published, the <strong>original manuscript</strong> was, unfortunately, cut short to less than 400 pages, without illustrations and without explanations for most of the original verses of the Srimad Bhagavad-gita. In all of my other books-Srimad Bhagavatam, Sri Isopanisad, etc.-the system is that I give the original verse, its English transliteration, word-for-word Sanskrit-English equivalents, translations and purports. This makes the book very authentic and scholarly and makes the meaning self-evident. I was not very happy, therefore, when I had to minimize my <strong>original manuscript</strong>. But later on, when the demand for Bhagavad-gita As It Is considerably increased, I was requested by many scholars and devotees to present the book in its original form, and Messrs. Macmillan and Co. agreed to publish the <strong>complete edition</strong>. <strong>Thus the present attempt</strong><strong> is to offer the </strong><strong>original manuscript</strong> of this great book of knowledge with full parampara explanation in order to establish the Krsna consciousness movement more soundly and progressively.” (Bg-1972: Preface)</p>
<p>This is what happens when a conditioned soul meddles in the perfect transcendental writings of a nitya-siddha pure devotee of Lord Shri Krishna! Above Srila Prabhupada himself clearly says three times that his 1972 Macmillan published book <em>is</em> the manuscript. A previous draft is just that, a draft. To revert an author’s work posthumously without his blessings is simply a big gamble and definitely unauthorized! Srila Prabhupada clearly says that it is the “complete edition” in this above quoted paragraph.</p>
<p>Also in the very front of the book (next to the publishers page) under the title of the book, in all caps and boldface letters it is stated “<strong>COMPLETE EDITION</strong>“. Thus absolutely establishing this point and making it clear that the book is finished/complete! To change the book now would imply that it is actually not complete and that the person changing it must feel themselves to know better than the author.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the staff at the BBTI have completely removed the words “<strong>COMPLETE EDITION</strong>” and replaced it with “REVISED AND ENLARGED”.</p>
<p>Calling the draft a manuscript is simply word jugglery and disobeying and contradicting Srila Prabhupada’s words printed directly in the book itself.</p>
<p>This is a very sly move that directly opens the door for unlimited changing of the text of Srila Prabhupada’s perfect transcendental books! It creates a mentality that Prabhupada’s books are imperfect and thus not transcendental. Naturally the effect of this is that it creates the impression that if the books are not complete and perfect (they need a conditioned soul to constantly edit them to keep them relevant and/or remove all the “mistakes”) then they are also not to be followed with one’s life and soul. It also takes the validity away from Srila Prabhupada’s finalized and approved books thus further directly paving the way for more unlimited changes by the imperfect minds and senses of conditioned souls now and in the future.</p>
<p>Over just the last 20 or so years there has been over 5000 changes to Prabhupada’s Gita. Just imagine in the future maybe 30 or 100 years from now, at the rate we are going, our children or our grandchildren may pick up a book with Srila Prabhupada’s name on it and it will be a whole different book. A book full of words and changes from the mental speculations of a conditioned, imperfect soul full of anarthas. So naturally when one opens their heart and soul to those words, changes, mental speculations and anarthas that are now present within the pages of Srila Prabhupada’s once holy and pure transcendental book, what benefit will there be?</p>
<p>It seems simple to me. Jayadvaita Swami was not there when Hayagriva and Srila Prabhupada were creating his Bhagavad-Gita. Why would I want to read the version of a conditioned soul who wasn’t even there when Prabhupada was manifesting his book through the literary gifts of Hayagriva? Hayagriva was the conditioned soul that Prabhupada specifically chose, empowered and gave specific instructions to for that seva. These instructions may have never been recorded anywhere – if one wants to benefit from them one must simply read Prabhupada’s original books. So why second guess Srila Prabhupada, step over his head and read some other conditioned soul’s unauthorized, revised editions? It just makes no sense to me.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada never designated Jayadvaita Swami to revise the Gita after Srila Prabhupada’s departure, and Jayadvaita Swami admits it. So it seems to come down to this: who do you want to trust? The person Srila Prabhupada chose, designated and empowered to finish and complete the book, or someone else that unauthorizedly changes that finished complete edition, without his approval and after his departure?</p>
<p>The 1972 Macmillan edition was good enough for Srila Prabhupada, so it’s good enough for me.</p>
<p>Just because Srila Prabhupada <strong><em>at one point</em></strong> said someone was a good man, does that mean that they are one now? Srila Prabhupada liked many devotees <strong><em>at one point</em></strong> and at that point put them in positions of power and authority and praised them, but later on down the road he changed his opinion about them and/or they went astray or deviated to one degree or another. So although at one point Prabhupada approved of someone and complimented them, that does not mean that from that point on they are bona-fide no matter what they do. Here are a few examples to further examine this point.</p>
<p>One Prabhupada disciple did HUGE service for Prabhupada, pushing on the book distribution mission (probably) more than any other Prabhupada disciple in ISKCON’s history, and was pretty much running ISKCON at one point. But later he changed the basic rules of the four regulative principles to three. Does that mean because he had so many thousands of disciples, and at one point was so dear to Srila Prabhupada that Prabhupada even commented on how he was so intelligent and empowered, that now we should all only have three regulative principles instead of four and continue to follow this devotee?</p>
<p>There were so many big, big devotees that Srila Prabhupada personally gave sannyasa to but later on Srila Prabhupada became so fed up with their deviations that he said that they should give up those positions as sannyasi! Srila Prabhupada even said <strong>“This should be strictly outlawed, no more sannyasis….there will be no sannyasi anymore.”</strong></p>
<p>(Room Conversation — January 7, 1977, Bombay)</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada established the GBC as the ultimate managing authority for all ISKCON. But at one point Srila Prabhupada totally disbanded the whole of the GBC within ISKCON due to their deviations! So simply because at one point in time Srila Prabhupada appointed them to power and trusted them, does that give them permanent power? No! At any time anyone can lose their position and power and deviate or go astray and at that point one is no longer authorized and empowered.</p>
<p>I feel the most relevant example is from the concluding words of the Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, dated November 10, 1974</p>
<p>“Now, by the grace of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and his Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, it is finished. In this connection I have to thank my American disciples, especially Sriman Pradyumna dasa Adhikari, Sriman <strong>Nitai</strong> dasa Adhikari, Sriman Jayadvaita dasa Brahmacari and many other boys and girls who are sincerely helping me in writing, editing and publishing all these literatures.”</p>
<p>But then on February 27, 1977 in Mayapura India Srila Prabhupada says “<strong>Nitai</strong>, he’s a rascal.”</p>
<p><em>Unfortunately</em> there are so many examples I could mention, but in order to not depress/and embarrass all of us unnecessarily in this article I will stop here.</p>
<p>I guess it just takes a bit of intelligence to figure all this out. But for those that look at the world through extremes and feel that a rubber-stamp carries more weight than common sense does, what can be said to persons like that?</p>
<p>Even great sages have fallen from their exalted positions. Even after getting blessings to be in positions. It’s nothing new, it’s in the Srimad-Bhagavatam many times.</p>
<p>This is why we conditioned souls have to be really careful in messing with Srila Prabhupada’s perfect transcendental books. On that same note, we should be even more careful of those devotees that feel they can mess with them.</p>
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		<title>Jayadvaita’s Smoke and Mirrors</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ISKCON now distributes a Bhagavad-gita that contains more than 5,000 unauthorized changes. Srila Prabhupada gave all his classes from his original Bhagavad-gita As It Is and read from this book personally on a daily basis and listened to his disciples read from it, and commented on the philosophical points as they read. With the exception [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong></strong>ISKCON now distributes a Bhagavad-gita that contains more than 5,000 unauthorized changes. Srila Prabhupada gave all his classes from his original <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> and read from this book personally on a daily basis and listened to his disciples read from it, and commented on the philosophical points as they read. With the exception of a couple of obvious typographical errors, Srila Prabhupada never at any point of time ordered that his Bhagavad-gita be changed. He most certainly did not authorize the production of a revised and enlarged edition of his book. </p>
<p>Jayadvaita Swami agrees that Srila Prabhupada did not ask him or anyone else to “revise and enlarge” his <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. So how did it happen? Where did the authority come from for ISKCON’s current “Revised and Enlarged” edition? It seems just after Srila Prabhupada left our material vision, Jayadvaita thought it was a good idea to revise and enlarge Prabhupada’s Gita, so he did it. </p>
<p>This was a confidential program. Although Jayadvaita did write a two-page letter to the “senior devotees” at the time, he never at any point in time revealed the extent of the changes he made to Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. He personally challenged me on this point at a BBT Trustees meeting where I was invited to speak on the book changes. And when I asked him to let us all know who was actually aware of the extent of the changes he had made to Srila Prabhupada’s Gita before it was published (all the BBT trustees and others were present), his answer was, “three people.” And when I asked him who they were he told us himself, the typist and he also gave Dravida a quick look at the changes. </p>
<p>Apart from these three people no one else was aware of the extent of what he had done to Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. No one in the BBT, no one in the GBC. The whole thing was done by Jayadvaita. He explained that he did the changes by writing them onto a Macmillan Gita and the only other person who saw that Gita with his changes written on it was Dravida, and of course the typist who typed up the manuscript of the current ISKCON “Revised and Enlarged” <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. </p>
<p>So it was a great mistake on the part of the GBC and the BBT to print this book without being aware of the extent of the changes that had been made. Of course they made the decision based on a letter by Jayadvaita claiming that he had not made many changes: </p>
<p>“Comparing each verse in the book with the text of the manuscript, I made only those changes that to me seemed worthwhile. I tried to be conservative and not make needless changes.”<br />
<em>(Jayadvaita’s letter to senior devotees, October 25, 1982)</em> </p>
<p>And what is his “authority” for this you may ask? As he said in the letter to senior devotees, “the text of the manuscript.” “I have made it closer to the original manuscript.” </p>
<p>And what is this so-called “original manuscript”? You can <a href="../bhagavad-gita-as-it-is-manuscript/" target="_blank"><strong>see it here</strong></a>. </p>
<p>As Bhakta Philip Prabhu has pointed out, this is not a manuscript at all. It is the first draft of the book. No author intends that the first draft of his book be published. He appoints an editor and together they work on the book to produce the manuscript which will ultimately be submitted to the publishers. In this case, Srila Prabhupada wrote the first draft and then worked with Hayagriva Prabhu and other editors to prepare the manuscript for his <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>, which was ultimately presented to MacMillan &amp; Co. for printing. </p>
<p>Imagine that you write the first draft of a book and appoint an editor. You work with your editor on a daily basis for months until together you produce a manuscript you are happy with and your book is published. Your book becomes a worldwide best seller and you are very happy with it. It is a spiritual book and by reading it many of the readers have incredible life-changing experiences. They also become very attached to your book. Your book is praised by scholars worldwide with rave reviews. Then many years later, after you have left your body, somebody finds the first draft of your book and decides to “correct” your published book based on your first draft. Of course you were never intending to publish this first draft. That is why you spent so much time and energy working with your editor on that first draft to transform it into a manuscript you actually wanted to present to the publishers. How angry would you be with this fool who wants to undo your work and your editors’ work by going back to the first draft? </p>
<p>Jayadviata Swami, by going back to the first draft, is eliminating so many corrections and so much work that Srila Prabhupada personally did on his book with Hayagriva and his other editors. This is a great disservice to Srila Prabhupada. </p>
<p>Jayadviata Swami is insisting that his version of the history of the editing of Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> is correct. And what is his version of the history? He has turned to “smoke and mirrors” to try and bewilder the devotees into believing a false history. In the “history according to Jayadvaita’s imagination”, Srila Prabhupada only typed and dictated the first draft of his <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> and handed it over to his editors and did not work with his editors on the book. In this way he claims the first draft that he has is authoritative and he is justified in changing the printed book if he can find something different in the first draft. </p>
<p>On his website he debunks “The myth that Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva together carefully reviewed the completed text of <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>“. He does this by debunking a statement by Govinda dasi, who saw Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva working together on editing Prabhupada’s books in 1968 in Los Angeles. Prabhupada and Hayagriva were actually working together on editing Srimad-Bhagavatam at that time. And according to Jayadvaita, that “proves” that Prabhupada and Hayagriva did not work together on editing the Gita. Strange logic, but we are expected to believe the Swami anyhow. </p>
<p>In a recent blog post [also appearing in today's edition of the Sun – "<a href="http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/10-10/editorials6666.htm" target="_blank"><strong>Book Changes: History Really Does Back the BBT</strong></a>"] Jayadvaita continues to try and distort and change the history: </p>
<p>“And so the image of Srila Prabhupada sitting with Hayagriva in December of 1968 carefully going over every verse of <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>, seeing to the finishing touches, is a persistent image of something that never took place. That’s the truth. Here’s the timeline. See for yourself.” (Jayadvaita Swami) </p>
<p>Then he goes on to present many quotes from Srila Prabhupada that are supposed to prove that Srila Prabhupada did not work with his editors on the <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> at all. However, Krishna slipped one quote into his article that completely blows his cover: </p>
<p><strong>December 14, 1967:</strong> Srila Prabhupada writes Rayarama, “I have already sent you the purports of each and every sloka that you sent me for correction. . . . As soon as you finish the Gitopanisad business and the matter is handed over to the MacMillan Co. we begin on the Bhagavatam work without delay.” </p>
<p>Here Jayadvaita is letting us know that Rayarama, while he was editing Bhagavad-gita, was in constant contact with Srila Prabhupada and was asking many questions about the editing, which Srila Prabhupada was answering. “I have already sent you the purports of each and every sloka that you sent me for correction.” So even with Rayarama’s editing he was asking Prabhupada many questions and Prabhupada was sending him many corrections to his “first draft”. None of these corrections by Srila Prabhupada are present in what Jayadvaita refers to as “the original manuscript.” This alone completely blows away any justification for using this document as any sort of authority, as it does not include the many corrections that Srila Prabhupada made to it while Rayarama was working on editing his Bhagavad-gita. </p>
<p>The real world is quite different from Jayadviata’s imaginary world. Even though the Swami constantly says, “It’s not true!” Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva did work together for almost three months in 1967 editing <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>, during this period Hayagriva Prabhu was consulting Srila Prabhupada daily on almost every verse in the <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. It’s not a myth, it’s history, and this history completely destroys any justification at all for changing Prabhupada’s Gita based on Prabhupada’s first draft of the book (or the “original manuscript”, as the Swami calls it). </p>
<p>If you ask Jayadvaita about this he will lie and tell you: “It could not have happened. Prabhupada and Hayagriva were never living together. It’s an Internet myth…” All lies and deception, unfortunately. It is frightening to think that such a deceptive, dishonest character has been given full authority to change anything at all he wants to change in Prabhupada’s books without any system of checks and balances at all. He can change anything, print the changed books without even disclosing what he has changed. And he smiles and says, “You just have to accept it…” </p>
<p>The proof that Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva worked together daily editing Bhagavad-gita for almost three months in 1967 can be found in Hayagriva Prabhu’s wonderful book, “The Hare Krishna Explosion”: </p>
<p><strong>January 17, 1967:</strong> Prabhupada arrives in San Francisco from New York. Hayagriva Prabhu is there to meet him. Prabhupada is still translating Bhagavad-gita and Hayagriva is there with him: </p>
<p>“Swamiji continues translating Bhagavad-gita. He is so eager to print it that we begin negotiations with a local printer. Prices are very high. In New York, Brahmananda continues his pursuit of publishers.” </p>
<p>So Hayagriva is negotiating on Srila Prabhupada’s behalf with a local printer to print Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. Finishing his translation of <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>, working with Hayagriva Prabhu to edit it and getting it printed are clearly the most important projects on Srila Prabhupada’s agenda at this time. </p>
<p>Hayagriva is still in San Francisco on January 29th, two weeks later, for the big concert featuring the Grateful Dead. </p>
<p>Hayagriva is still with Srila Prabhupada in San Francisco in February: </p>
<p>“The days of February are beautiful with perfect temperatures in the seventies, fog rolling off early, skies very blue and clear, sun falling bright and sharp on the lush foliage of Golden Gate Park. The park encloses the largest variety of plant and tree life to be found in any one spot on earth. We are at a loss to identify plants for Swamiji.” </p>
<p>Hayagriva has settled down in the ISKCON San Francisco temple (a storefront near Golden Gate Park) and he is working there: </p>
<p>“I rent an electric typewriter, set it up in the back temple room, and continue typing up stencils for Back To Godhead, writing and editing [Bhagavad-gita] while Harsharani sends people after food, and cooks noon prasadam.” </p>
<p>Hayagriva is the only devotee living in the San Francisco temple and is the “Temple Commander”: </p>
<p>“Being the only person living in the temple proper, and one of the senior devotees besides, I’m naturally looked to as the temple commander, a role I often find myself regretting.” </p>
<p>All this time Hayagriva is living with Srila Prabhupada and his main service is editing Bhagavad-gita: </p>
<p>“Apart from kirtans, I find myself spending many sunny hours in the park, walking past the tennis courts to large, quiet bowers surrounded with hybiscus and eucalyptus. And at times <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I sit in the shade beneath the white and pink rhododendrons and edit Bhagavad-gita</span></strong>. After editing, I sometimes visit the museum and stroll through the replica eighteenth century gardens, chanting my daily rounds while perusing the curlicues of rococo art.” </p>
<p>Hayagriva is still in San Francisco together with Srila Prabhupada on February 27th. This is now six weeks in the personal association of Srila Prabhupada, working with him editing his <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. </p>
<p>He is still there with Srila Prabhupada in March: </p>
<p>“Golden Gate Park is redolent with March flowers. The morning fog disperses early, and the days are cloudless and blue. Thousands continue to flock to San Francisco from the midwest and east, and our Sunday kirtans attract big crowds… On Tuesday evenings, we go to the beach with Swamiji and hold unforgettable Pacific Ocean sunset kirtans. Sitting on the sand, we watch the tide roll in, or chant and wait for the sun to dip below the horizon. After chanting, we roast potatoes and smear them with melted butter. Swamiji eats with us, sitting on a big log. And after potatoes, we roast marshmallows, and red apples stuffed with raisins and brown sugar.” </p>
<p>All throughout this time (now over two months) Hayagriva is working editing Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>, consulting Srila Prabhupada on almost every verse: </p>
<p>“Although I write on the Lord Chaitanya play through the spring days, my primary service is helping Swamiji with Bhagavad-gita. He continues translating, hurrying to complete the manuscript but still annotating each verse thoroughly in his purports. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Daily, I consult him to make certain that the translation of each verse precisely coincides with the meaning he wants to relate.</span></strong> “Edit for force and clarity,” he tells me. “By Krishna’s grace, you are a qualified English professor. You know how grammatical mistakes will discredit us with scholars. I want them to appreciate this Bhagavad-gita as the definitive edition. All the others try to take credit away from Krishna.” </p>
<p>“I am swamped with editing. Since much of the text is equivocal due to grammar, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I find myself consulting Swamiji on nearly every verse.</span></strong> It seems that in Sanskrit, Hindi, and Bengali, phrase is tacked onto phrase until the original subject is lost.” </p>
<p><strong>March 21:</strong> Hayagriva is still in San Francisco working daily with Srila Prabhupada on editing <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>… So far this is almost nine weeks constantly with Srila Prabhupada… </p>
<p><strong>April 9:</strong> </p>
<p>“Swamiji leaves for the airport. Before entering the car, he stops, cane in hand, and gives a long look at the little storefront temple. It is a look that says a great deal. Gurudas snaps a photo at that very instant. ‘That’s a farewell look,’ I think to myself.” </p>
<p>So Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva worked together on editing the Bhagavad-gita daily during the almost three months while Hayagriva Prabhu was living with him in the San Francisco temple, from Janurary 17, 1967 until April 9, 1967. </p>
<p>Jayadvaita Swami [desperately]: “IT JUST DID NOT HAPPEN!!!” </p>
<p>The history is the history. Srila Prabhupada worked on the first draft of <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> extensively with both Hayagriva Prabhu and Rayarama Prabhu. In the three months Hayagriva went through practically every verse with Srila Prabhupada and Prabhupada also sent many corrections to Rayarama Prabhu later on. </p>
<p>At that time Macmillan were only able to print 400 pages, so Rayarama abridged Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. Prabhupada was not happy with this and wanted to publish the complete edition. Hayagriva was again called on by Srila Prabhupada for producing the manuscript, which was submitted to Macmillan for the publication of the complete 1,000 page edition in 1972. At this time there were at least exchanges of letters between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva and Prabhupada was still giving him many instructions related to the editing and answering the questions he had in regard to the editing. </p>
<p>So Jayadvaita’s “history” that Srila Prabhupada did not work with his disciples on editing Bhagavad-gita is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. It is a dishonest attempt to mislead the devotees and cover-up the real history. </p>
<p>The authoritative edition of Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> is the final published 1972 “Complete Edition.” Not the first draft that Jayadvaita calls the “manuscript.” Srila Prabhupada spent considerable time, energy and effort working with his editors Hayagriva Prabhu and Rayarama Prabhu to take his first draft to the real manuscript — the manuscript which was submitted for publishing to MacMillan. </p>
<p>Changes to the final published book cannot be justified by referring to the first draft. This is a great mistake. </p>
<p>People are not so foolish. The truth is the truth. Eventually Jayadvaita’s smoke and mirrors will stop working and the blind followers will wake up and see the truth. </p>
<p>Chant Hare Krishna and be happy! </p>
<p>Your servant,<br />
Madhudvisa dasa </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Jayadvaita Swami, Dravida Prabhu &#38; Company, please explain why you have done the following: (1) Why is it in the revised edition of the Bhagavad-gita, you and company have completely removed the foreword by Professor Edward Dimock that was printed in the original Macmillan version of the Bhagavad-gita As It Is which Srila Prabhupada [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jayadvaita Swami, Dravida Prabhu &amp; Company, please explain why you have done the following:</p>
<p><strong>(1)</strong> Why is it in the revised edition of the <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>, you and company   have completely removed the foreword by Professor Edward Dimock that  was  printed in the original Macmillan version of the <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> which Srila Prabhupada regularly read from?</p>
<p>Readers, please visit the website and see the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL43UzZ-FQ8" target="_blank"><strong>video on YouTube</strong></a> of  Srila Prabhupada  lecturing on the <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>. There, in the   very immediate beginning (very first few minutes) of this video, you   will find Srila Prabhupada praising the foreword by Professor Edward   Dimock. This particular video clip is taken from one of the 19 Double   layer DVD’s produced by Nrsimhananda Prabhu and his associates at ITV.   It is the particular DVD named <em>Bhagavad Gita as It Is</em>, with Krishna and Arjuna on the chariot, and sky background, and is in the very first part, called “Introduction”.</p>
<p>Srila   Prabhupada is reading the foreword himself, praising it, mentioning   Edward Dimock’s name, and praising Edward Dimock for a particular   comment that he had made, as follows:</p>
<ul>“Swami   Bhaktivedanta comments upon the <em>Gita</em> from this point of view, and that   is legitimate. More than that, in this translation the Western reader   has the unique opportunity of seeing how a Krsna devotee interprets his   own texts”</ul>
<p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span></span></p>
<p>Srila   Prabhupada in the video explains this particular statement by Edward   Dimock, on how a Krsna devotee interprets his own texts, by explaining   that just as a family member only is qualified to give the best   knowledge to others about his own family, similarly, only a Krsna   devotee can properly explain to others about Krsna. Srila Prabhupada   appreciates this particular point made by Edward Dimock in the video.</p>
<p>Thus,   not only has Srila Prabhupada authorized this particular foreword in   the Macmillan <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>, but had himself read, it, and praised   certain points made by the person who wrote this foreword.  Yet you,   Jayadvaita Swami, Dravida Prabhu &amp; Company, have the audacity to   remove this foreword completely in your revised version. The proof of   how you have offended your Spiritual Master is on public video record,   as those who watch will sadly but easily be able to understand this   particular deviation of yourselves in either revising or omitting your   Spiritual Master’s works and words by using your fertile imaginations.</p>
<p><strong>(2)</strong> Why have you, Jayadvaita Swami, Dravida Prabhu &amp; Company, omitted    47 out of 48 of the original color pictures inside of the original   Macmillan <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>?  Why have you omitted the   pictures of the bona fide disciplic succession Gurus coming before Srila   Prabhupada, namely Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur, Srila Gaur   Kisore Das Babaji Maharaj, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur, with a brief   description of their character and achievements?  Srila Prabhupada   wanted very much for every ISKCON member to understand their spiritual   family roots, i.e., to understand the previous disciplic succession   Gurus.  That is why he arranged to put these pictures there.</p>
<p>Srila   Prabhupada also wanted everyone, both devotees and karmi readers, to   understand that he, as the author of this Macmillan version of <em> Bhagavad-gita</em>, was authorized and a student of these bona fide spiritual   Masters, thus giving genuine authority to this book.   Yet you,   Jayadvaita Swami and company, have audaciously removed these most   important disciplic Guru pictures. The other 43 pictures with their   respective written descriptions below were also very useful for the   reader to relate to what he was reading in the different chapters of the <em> Bhagavad-gita</em>.  They were also painted with the guidance and authority   of Srila Prabhupada, who blessed them with his constant glance  whenever  he used the book. Yet you have unfortunately removed all of  them with  the exception of one.</p>
<p><strong>(3)</strong> Why have you, Jayadvaita Swami, Dravida Prabhu &amp; Company, removed   and replaced the original front cover of the Macmillan version of the <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> with your own version?  In that original picture, Krsna is holding the   conch shell, which is mentioned in the 1st chapter of the <em> Bhagavad-gita</em>,  how when both Krsna and Arjuna blew their respective  conch shells, it  aroused fear and shattered the hearts of the enemies.  Srila Prabhupada  and all the thousands of devotees, including the  karmis who bought this  book, were delighted to see this spiritual  picture, which is one of the  chief attractions of the whole book. The  horses in the Macmillan version  look strong, stout, and healthy, as  they should be, considering that  they were gifted by the fire god Agni  to Arjuna by the blessings of  Krsna. This is mentioned in the Krsna  book in the Chapter entitled,  “Five Queens married by Krsna”.</p>
<p>Yet   in your revised version picture, your horses look all so thin with  very  skinny legs, as if  they have not had prasadam for a long time.  They  are half the size in bodily structure as opposed to the original   Macmillan horses. They really do not look celestial and gifted by a   celestial demigod.  Readers, please compare for yourselves. Yet you   Jayadvaita, Dravida &amp; Company, have removed this wonderful picture   and replaced it with yours. You have also replaced the original Krsna   and Arjuna, with Krsna now holding a whip instead of a conch shell. What   was the need for this change — just so that you all could show to   everyone in the world that you could do something new and different than   what your Spiritual Master has done?</p>
<p><strong>(4)</strong> Why have you, Jayadvaita Swami, Dravida Prabhu &amp; Company, on the   back cover of your revised version of <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>, put a commentary by   Mohandas K Gandhi, so-called praising the <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>, when you very   well know how much Srila Prabhupada condemned Gandhi, especially in   relation to the <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>?  Srila Prabhupada comments that Gandhi   was the greatest hypocrite, that on one hand while posing himself as a   student of the <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>, he never even had any faith that Lord   Krishna even existed.  Srila Prabhupada describes Gandhi as having no   spiritual consciousness whatsoever.  Gandhi also did not even care to   stop the millions of cows being slaughtered daily, when he had an   excellent chance to do so, thus he was directly defying Lord Krishna’s   instructions on cow protection described in the 18th Chapter of the <em> Bhagavad-gita</em>. Readers, please see the particular conversations   mentioned below in the Folio about what Srila Prabhupada said abut   Gandhi in relation to <em>Bhagavad-gita</em> and cow killing:</p>
<ul><strong> (A) Room Conversation March 2 1975 Atlanta:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> “No, no. No shortage. That is everything supply. You have got the   Vedic knowledge. You don’t take care of that. You now manufacture your   own knowledge. Now there is knowledge, this <em>Bhagavad-gita</em> is perfect   knowledge, but even a political leader like Gandhi, he says that I don’t   believe that there was anybody like Krsna living. This is your leader.   All the acaryas, previous acaryas, big, big acaryas, Sankaracarya,  big,  big, stalwart, learned, they have accepted Krsna. Now Gandhi says,  “I  don’t believe.” Now you are guided by Gandhi, you are not guided by  the  acaryas. That is your misfortune. You are not guided by Krsna. You  are  guided by Dr. Radhakrishnan. That is the misfortune. <em>Andha  yathandhair  upaneyamanau</em> [SB 7.5.31], one blind man is being, is  following another  blind man. That is going on. That is going on all  over the world, not  only in India.</p>
<p><strong>Guest (2):</strong> I think Mahatma Gandhi followed the <em>Gita</em>, all these…</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> But he did not believe in Krsna and he followed <em>Gita</em>? Just see!</p>
<p><strong>Guest (2): </strong>(indistinct)</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> No, just try to understand the psychology. He (Gandhi) says plainly   that I do not believe there was anybody Krsna, living ever. And he’s   following Krsna’s instruction. Just see his position.</p>
<p><strong>Guest (2): </strong>No, he must have also answered this question.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada: </strong>No, no, there is no questioning. If you do not believe in somebody, how you are reading His book of knowledge?</p>
<p><strong>Guest (2):</strong> That’s my point also.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada: </strong>Yes, so therefore. This kind of leader we are following, contradictory. That is our misfortune.</p>
<p><strong> (B) March 10th 1972, Vrndavana: </strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> “Useless speaking. In India also, so many fools, they are accepted as   very perfect. Just like Gandhi, take Gandhi. Where was Gandhi? In   spiritual consciousness, he is nothing. Nothing, no value. But if we say   in the public, they will be angry, “Oh!” But actually there is no   value, no spiritual value. He is known all over the world as a great   spiritualist. He was a moralist, that’s all. That is not a qualification   for understanding God”.</p>
<p><strong> (C) March 5th 1975, New York: </strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> “Even Gandhi, such an exalted man, he says that “I have no belief. I  do  not believe that there was any person as Krsna ever living.” Just  see.  All the big, big acaryas of India who are practically controlling  the  destiny of the Hindu civilization or Vedic civilization, they all   believe. Gandhi became more than them. Who made him, that is another   thing. But he thinks like that, and because Gandhi thinks, just imagine   how many millions of people have been misled”.</p>
<p><strong> (D) January 23rd 1977, Bhuvanesvara: </strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> “Yes. No, anything, if you can understand very clearly, where is the   question of interpretation? But it has become a fashion that “If I can   interpret in my own way, I become a big scholar.” This is going on. If   you have got your philosophy, you can speak. Everyone is free. Why you   should take <em>Bhagavad-gita</em> and distort it? Krsna never meant that “In   future Gandhi will come,” or “Dr. Radhakrishnan will come, and he will   explain My ideas.” What is this nonsense? Krsna was a foolish person   that he left it for Gandhi for distortion? He could not explain Himself   that Kuruksetra means this body? Gandhi has to interpret? Do you think   it is right?”</p>
<p><strong> (E) Dec 16th 1975, Bombay: </strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> “Karl Marx maybe. Even your Gandhi-ism, that is also concoction.   Gandhi invented nonviolence; it is also concoction. It is impossible.   Everyone is doing this—something manufacturing. That is not <em>sanatana   dharma. Sanatana dharma</em> is never manufactured. It is already there. You   have to accept it, that’s all. Otherwise everyone is manufacturing some   concoction. This is going on. Krsna is teaching, “Fight.” And Gandhi  is  teaching from <em>Bhagavad-gita</em> nonviolence. Just see! Is it possible?</p>
<p><strong> (F) January 9th 1977, Bombay: </strong></p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> “The people approached him that “Mahatmaji, you have got influence  over  the Muslims, why not stop cow-killing?” “I cannot touch on their   religious principles.” Just see. Cow-killing is religious? Their   religious principle. If I say my father-killing, mother-killing is my   religion, so Gandhi will say, “Yes, you can do that. Nonviolent.” Kill   nonviolent. This nonsense contradiction can be tolerated by the fools   and rascals. That’s all. That is…”</ul>
<p><strong>(5)</strong> Why have you, Jayadvaita Swami, Dravida Prabhu &amp; Company, removed   the words below the picture of Srila Prabhupada in the original   Macmillan Bhagavad-gita, namely, “greatest exponent of Krsna   consciousness in the western world”? Is this also one of the many stupid   mistakes made by some raw editors at the time, namely Hayagriva  Prabhu,  or some raw typist such as Bhakta Neal, and you have mercifully   corrected it for all our spiritual welfare? Even a person with half a   brain can understand that you have made the greatest offense to your   spiritual master by enviously removing these words, “greatest exponent  of Krsna Consciousness in the western world”.</p>
<p>Awaiting your reply. . .</p>
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		<title>Can I Trade For That Original One?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prahlada-Nrsimha dasa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I met one nice young gentleman and presented Prabhupada’s books to him. I went through my whole presentation and explained how it’s the original, unedited pure wisdom. He then all of a sudden, without saying anything at all, just turned and went to his car, reached into it and pulled out a BBTI Bhagavad-Gita [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently I met one  nice young gentleman and presented  Prabhupada’s books to him. I went  through my whole presentation and  explained how it’s the original,  unedited pure wisdom. He then all of a  sudden, without saying anything  at all, just turned and went to his  car, reached into it and pulled out a  BBTI <em>Bhagavad-Gita</em> and walked  back to me. He said, “Can I trade for  that original one?” I, a bit  nervous about what was going on, replied,  “I don’t distribute those  books. They are completely different, why do  you want to trade me for  that one, what’s wrong with it… what happened?”  In a very irritated  mood, and slightly angry he told me, “Look this  one’s been revised,  I’ll show you in the front of the book, look right  here” and he  immediately opened right to the front of the book and  pointed to the  big bold faced words “<strong>REVISED</strong>“. He continued to  say,  “I don’t want anything that’s been changed, I want the original  stuff.”  With a totally disgusted look on his face he told me, “I bought  this  book off somebody thinking I was getting the pure stuff and it  turns  out it isn’t, it’s been revised! Is there any chance I can get  that one  instead?” I gave him Srila Prabhupada’s pure unadulterated  original <em> Bhagavad-Gita</em> and we both stood there looking at his revised  BBTI  version. He asked, “Do you want that one?” I had to be honest and  tell  him, “No, sorry, maybe just give that one away to someone who  doesn’t  care about these things, there are still a few people out there  who  don’t care about these things”.</p>
<p>This  reminds me of several years ago when I personally approached  one  scholar at a university teaching a course on eastern philosophy. I   presented Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-Gita</em> with the offer that if they   would consider using it as course material then I would beat whatever   price they were paying for the version they were presently using. This   scholar’s reply was: I know you people from ISKCON, I know you have   changed Swami Prabhupada’s <em>Gita</em> after his demise, so how can I use such a   book.<span> </span></p>
<p><span>I  am not any type of scholar or editor or anything like that,  but I am a  sincere seeker of the pure unadulterated truth. I was  thinking about all  this editing stuff and one thing that has stuck out  in my mind is how </span>for  many years now Jayadvaita Swami has  claimed to have what he calls as an  original “manuscript” of Srila  Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-Gita</em> and he claims  to be changing Srila  Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita</em> to become closer to  that so-called  “manuscript”. So I looked up the word manuscript in the  dictionary:<span style="color: #000000;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">man·u·script</span> [<strong>man</strong>-y<em>uh</em>-skript] <strong><em>–noun</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>1.</strong><span style="color: #7b7b7b;"><strong> </strong></span>the original text of an author’s work, handwritten or now usually typed, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>that is submitted to a publisher.</strong></span></p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/manuscript" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/manuscript</a></p>
<p>Then I got the idea to look up the word draft:<span style="color: #000000;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">draft</span> [draft, drahft] <strong><em>–noun</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>1.</strong><span style="color: #7b7b7b;"><strong> </strong></span>a drawing, sketch, or design.</p>
<p><strong>2.</strong><span style="color: #7b7b7b;"><strong> </strong></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>a first or preliminary form of any writing, subject to revision, copying, etc.</strong></span></p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/draft" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/draft</a></p>
<p>From this it  appears to be incorrect and misleading to call what  Jayadvaita Swami has  a manuscript because it was never submitted to the  publisher (<span>Macmillan).</span> What he has is simply a rough draft that was never intended to be published.  A draft is, as it says here, a f<span style="color: #333233;">irst or preliminary form of any writing, subject to revision, copying, etc.</span> This is a perfect description of what Jayadvaita Swami has. The   manuscript is what becomes the actual published book. The manuscript is   verbatim to the 1972 <span>Macmillan  Bhagavad-Gita. So with that being  cleared up, the question is whether it  is such a good idea for a  conditioned soul to revert a published,  approved manuscript of a <em> Maha-bhagavata</em> Acharya Sad-guru back to a  previous unpublished draft <em>without his direct permission</em>. </span>Jayadvaita Swami: <strong>“I never got an explicit word from Srila Prabhupada to do this work at an explicit time.”</strong></p>
<p>Also all the reviews by world famous scholars that the BBTI have placed in their revised edited <em>Gita</em> <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>are not</em></span> reviews of that revised edited version, they are reviews of Srila Prabhupada’s original approved version.</p>
<p><span>It amazes me that there are so many thousands upon thousands of  dollars being spent on so many </span>elaborate   international propaganda campaigns, books being written and   distributed, websites and videos created, all for the sole purpose of   simply trying to spin the minds of all the innocent, simple devotees   into thinking that Prabhupada’s approved, authorized books are not any   good, and need to be continuously changed without end. But I ask, what   will be the result of all this besides people completely loosing faith   in Srila Prabhupada’s books due to the intensive revisions that they   have undergone?</p>
<p>Imagine if all  that same money, propaganda, resources, websites,  videos, time, energy,  manpower, intelligence etc. was used to  distribute Srila Prabhupada’s  books instead of just continuously  changing them (and desperately trying  to justify those changes)? Just  think how many more thousands of poor,  fallen conditioned souls  miserably lost and drowning in the ocean of  nescience and illusion  without a glimmer of hope in all directions could  have gotten to hear  from Srila Prabhupada, if all those same resources  where used to  distribute Prabhupada’s books?</p>
<p>Why not just  accept Srila Prabhupada’s original books the same way  Srila Prabhupada  and all those scholars did? Srila Prabhupada would  daily read his own  books and Srila Prabhupada accepted them. All those  big, big scholars  accepted them. While Srila Prabhupada was still  personally directing and  overseeing things the devotees accepted them,  and distributed them.  Prabhupada was pleased by this. Now after Srila  Prabhupada is not there  any more personally overseeing everything there  is so much change. What  would we think if someone started revising say  the original published  texts of Sanatana Goswami, Jayadeva Goswami, or  Bhaktisidanta Saraswati  Thakura? Would anyone tolerate the revision of  even a mundane document  like the constitution of the USA? So why do we  tolerate the revisions on  Srila Prabhupada’s books?</p>
<p>This reminds me of  a funny quote in this regard from Hari Sauri  Prabhu’s Transcendental  Diary where he recalls what Srila Prabhupada  said about his disciples  changing things: <strong>“You must do  something new. If you have to put your  feet upward and head down, walk  on your hands and clap your feet, but do  something new!”</strong> He shook his head in slight exasperation. <strong>“This is your American disease. Always changing! Change every few minutes. Our qualification is we don’t change anything.”</strong> Then he quoted <em>Bhagavad-gita</em> 4.2: <strong>“This   supreme science was thus received in disciplic succession, and the   saintly kings understood it in that way. But in course of time the   succession was broken, and therefore the science as it is appears to be   lost.”</strong> <strong>“This changing will ruin everything.”</strong></p>
<p>For further reading on this subject of manuscript or draft there is a nice article by a very senior Prabhupada disciple at: <a href="../iskcons-original-manuscript-scam/" target="_blank">http://bookchanges.com/iskcons-original-manuscript-scam/</a></p>
<p>OK, back to the  nectar! I was distributing books at one of the last  big concerts of the  summer. I was wandering around back stage (how I  get into places like  this even surprises me sometimes, and reminds me  that Krishna and  Prabhupada are the doers and I just have to go along  for the ride) and I  bumped into the head sound guy. I was checking out  all his high-tech  sound equipment and he showed me how he was  broadcasting the whole show  live to some local radio station. Anyway, I  showed him Srila  Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-Gita</em> and did my little  presentation and he  patiently listened to me and had a big grin on his  face the whole time.  Then he just said, “This is totally  synchronistic”, and handed me a $20.  So I gave him Prabhupada’s Gita,  KRSNA, and an Isopanishad. Then I  asked him what was so synchronistic  about it. He told me that he was  just reading a book by Robert Anton  Wilson called “Prometheus Rising”  and he explained that in that book  the author gives examples of some  synchronistic events that may happen  in our life, and if any of these  events happen then it is some type of  very special occurrence. He  explained that one of the examples of  synchronistic events he gives in  the book is someone walking up to you  and handing you a <em>Bhagavad-Gita</em>!</p>
<p>If you would like  some of Srila Prabhupada’s original, authorized  (pre-1978) books to  bring with you in your daily life to distribute,  please goto <strong><a href="http://krishnastore.com" target="_blank">www.krishnastore.com<span style="color: #114070; text-decoration: underline;"> </span></a></strong></p>
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		<title>The Spin Doctor Has Gone Too Far!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madhudvisa dasa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his rebuttal of Mother Govinda dasi’s letter, “Book Changes: History Backs the BBT“, Jayadvaita Swami asserts that history supports his very strange claim that Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva did not work together on the editing of Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita. He claims that Mother Govinda dasi was wrong and that she did not ever see [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his rebuttal of Mother Govinda dasi’s letter, “<a href="http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/08-10/editorials6459.htm" target="_blank"><strong>Book Changes: History Backs the BBT</strong></a>“,   Jayadvaita Swami asserts that history supports his very strange claim   that Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva did not work together on the  editing  of Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita. </p>
<p>He   claims that Mother Govinda dasi was wrong and that she did not ever  see  Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva working together on Srila  Prabhupada’s  Bhagavad-gita. He very much respects his godsister, but  still claims she  could never have seen this… She is just plain wrong. </p>
<p>And   as the master of spin, he has quoted Srila Prabhupada to “prove” that   Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva never worked together on the editing of   Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita. And what is that quote? </p>
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<p>“Recently,   Hayagriva came from Columbus, and he remained with me for more than a   fortnight. He was assisting me in editing Srimad-Bhagavatam. Now he is   married with Syama Dasi and has returned to New Vrindaban with his many   responsibilities.”<br />
<em>(Letter to Rupanuga, January 15, 1969)</em> </ul>
<p>So   Jayadvaita is trying to “spin” this quote where Prabhupada clearly  says  he and Hayagriva were working together editing Srimad-Bhagavatam  to  “prove” that Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva did not work together   editing the Bhagavad-gita… You have to laugh… or cry.  Who could  accept  this “logic”? </p>
<p>If   Prabhupada and Hayagriva were working together at the end of 1968 on   the Bhagavatam then surely that would indicate they worked together   similarly on the Bhagavad-gita in 1967? </p>
<p>We know that Hayagriva was working on editing the Bhagavad-gita in August of 1967. </p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Hayagriva, August 29, 1967: </p>
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<p>“…   am very glad to receive your first letter to me in India. So far Gita   is concerned, please get it completed as soon as possible; it must be   published now,…” </p>
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<p>This   work was disturbed by Kirtanananda, who returned from India to New  York  with a strange philosophy and convinced Hayagriva to go off with  him to  start another spiritual center that turned out to be the New  Vrindavan  Farm community. So Hayagriva was out of the picture for a  couple of  months. </p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Brahmananda, November 18, 1967: </p>
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<p>“As   he [Rayarama] is now engaged in finishing Gita Upanisad, it is   understood that he cannot work. The editing of Gita Upanisad is already   much delayed. I think it was in this month of November last year [1966]   my compilation of Gita Upanisad was finished. The editing work was  first  entrusted with Rayarama, but as he could not finish it the work  was  transferred to Hayagriva. In this way even within one year the  editing  work could not be finished. This is not very encouraging. Now  it must be  finished within three weeks and hand it over to MacMillan  Co. Today I  shall go to the travel agent’s office for booking my seat  and may start  by next Monday or Tuesday. In my next letter I shall let  you and Mukunda  know of my journey from Calcutta to San Francisco, via  Bangkok, Hong  Kong etc. Hope you are well.” </p>
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<p>So we can see Srila Prabhupada finished writing the <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> in November 1966. Editing was given to Rayarama, who could not complete   it, and then editing was transferred to Hayagriva sometime in 1967   [before Prabhupada went to India]. Then Hayagriva left with Kirtanananda   for a couple of months and in this time Prabhupada tried to get   Rayarama to complete the editing, but it seems again he could not finish   it and it was again handed back to Hayagriva to complete. </p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Hayagriva, March 17, 1968: </p>
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<p>“I   thank you very much for your letter dated March 9, 1968. I have come   back to San Francisco on the 8th March, and while I was in Los Angeles   for two months, I received the balance portion of Bhagavad-gita edited   by you. I am expecting the foreword also, but I can understand that it   was not yet dispatched. So, when it is prepared you can send it to me   here in S.F. I am so glad to understand that you are missing the   atmosphere of S.F. which you so nicely enjoyed last year, and similarly,   I am also missing your company which I enjoyed last year here. </p>
<p>Whenever   I go to the class, I remember you, how joyfully you were chanting in   the Temple, and whistling the bugle so nicely. Whenever I see the cornet   lying idle because nobody can play on this particular instrument, I   remember Hayagriva Brahmacari immediately.”</p>
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<p>In   this very revealing letter we find that Rayarama again did not  complete  the editing and again the job of finishing the editing of the <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> was given to Hayagriva, and by sometime in February 1968, Srila   Prabhupada received the “balance portion” of Bhagavad-gita edited by   Hayagriva. Now Prabhupada is only waiting for the edited foreword to   come from Hayagriva and the manuscript will be complete. </p>
<p>The   most important point: “I am also missing your company which I enjoyed   last year here. Whenever I go to the class, I remember you, how  joyfully  you were chanting in the Temple, and whistling the bugle so  nicely.” </p>
<p>Srila   Prabhupada and Hayagriva were living together in San Francisco in  1967,  which is the time when Hayagriva did most of the Bhagavad-gita  editing.  So this would be the time when Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva  sat  together regularly and discussed the editing of <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. How can anyone think that in 1967, when Srila Prabhupada had just finished writing his <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em> in December of 1966, and now he was living in San Francisco with   Hayagriva Prabhu, that they did not discuss the editing of   Bhagavad-gita, which was the most important project in ISKCON at that   time? </p>
<p>Hayagriva also remembers, in his <em>Hare Krishna Explosion</em> book, consulting with Srila Prabhupada daily on the editing work for <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>. How does spin-doctor Jayadvaita Swami deal with this? </p>
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<p>“Hayagriva   does speak of consulting Srila Prabhupada “daily” throughout the  spring  of ’67. But Hayagriva’s memory must have been tricking him: In  the time  he speaks of, he was in San Francisco, Srila Prabhupada in New  York.” </p>
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<p>Strange.   Both Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva and Govinda dasi all remember  being  together in 1967. But our spin doctor is saying “No no no. It’s  not  true. It’s not true… Hayagriva imagined it, Govinda dasi imagined  it  and Prabhupada imagined it…” </p>
<p>Jayadvaita   Swami, I think everyone can agree, is great at spinning things. But   here he has overstepped all reasonable boundaries. To try and spin Srila   Prabhupada and Hayagriva working together editing the Bhagavatam and   use this to “prove” that Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva did not work   together on editing the Bhagavad-gita is JUST TOO MUCH… </p>
<p>And   we have the testimony now of Srila Prabhupada, Hayagriva Prabhu and   Govinda dasi, who all recall Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva working   together daily on the editing of Bhagavad-gita in 1967 in San Francisco. </p>
<p>So the conclusion:  Jayadvaita Swami is “just plain wrong…” </p>
<p>One visitor to <a href="http://www.bookchanges.com/" target="_blank"><strong>www.BookChanges.com</strong></a> left a very nice comment a couple of days ago: </p>
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<p>Submitted on 2010/08/22 at 8:42am </p>
<p>Dear Prabhujis </p>
<p>I   have been listening to this controversy around the edited books, and I   would like to make a suggestion/statement. If I had an employee that   cost my business one million dollars through a lawsuit that I didn’t win   I would fire that employee. Pure and Simple. </p>
<p>His   Holiness JaiAdvaita Swami Maharaj should be “put out to pasture” and   preach the glories of Lord Caitanya throughout the world. That is his   job as a Sanyasi. He is now old like the rest of us, and sufficiently   realized in his Krishna Consciousness to have a profound preaching   result. </p>
<p>His   work as Editor of Srila Prabhupada’s books has now come to an end, and   it will cost millions more to reverse this mess. Send him on the road  as  a senior devotee. Hari Bol! </p>
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<p>PS:   Dravida’s post does not deserve a reply. We all admit that there are   some genuine typographical errors in the Bhagavad-gita and no one is   complaining about correcting genuine typographical errors. Dravida is   trying to use the tactics Jayadvaita Swami was using ten years ago. We   have gone past that stage now. Some of the changes he mentions also   should not have been changed. But I am not going to go down that path.   For further information, please refer to <a href="http://www.bookchanges.com/" target="_blank"><strong>www.BookChanges.com</strong></a>. </p>
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