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		<title>The Last Days of School</title>
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		<description><![CDATA["A while ago there were some other people here passing out some books and I looked in the front and it said 'REVISED' in it and so I handed it back to them. I told them I don't want an edited version, I want the original thing!"]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> </strong> I was at one of the bigger schools and saw a student who looked pretty  hip and together, so I ran to catch up with him. I showed him the books  and he immediately looked at me asking, &#8220;Are these the edited ones?&#8221; I  busted out laughing in total surprise that a regular guy knew about how  Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books are being heavily edited and changed, and is  smart enough to not buy into that nonsense. I flipped open to the  publisher&#8217;s page in the front of the books and showed him that these are  published by Krishna Books Inc., who only publish the original stuff. I  told him I don&#8217;t like all the editing, either. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I asked him, &#8220;How did you know about the  editing of these books&#8221;? He said, &#8220;A while ago there were some other  people here passing out some books and I looked in the front and it said  &#8216;REVISED&#8217; in it and so I handed it back to them. I told them I don&#8217;t  want an edited version, I want the original thing!&#8221; So he very happily  gave a nice donation and took Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s original books.</p>
<div align="center"><strong>***</strong></div>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I stopped one Indian man and presented him  Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books. He immediately smiled, stood very erect and  said in a bit of a know-it-all way: &#8220;Oh, Prabhupada, he is a great  scholar&#8221;. I got a serious expression on my face and firmly replied, &#8220;NO,  he is much more than just a scholar. He is realized, he is a  practitioner, he is a devotee, so his translations are not just  scholarly or academic. They are realized, and will reveal to you  realizations in your own heart, it&#8217;s all about experience.&#8221; </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">As I said this, his facial expressions  went from jolly and a bit arrogant to serious and he said: &#8220;You know, I  am physicist, and I have this book, and I know your Prabhupada&#8221;. Then he  stopped talking for a moment and then he said in a whole other tone of  voice, &#8220;I was just walking here one second ago before you stopped me and  I was thinking about particles and atoms, and that it&#8217;s all useless  knowledge unless you experience it. You have to experience it, realize  it, and now you&#8217;re here telling me the same thing that I was just  thinking about!&#8221; </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">He gave a nice donation and took all the  books I had and asked if I had any other books by &#8220;Swami Prabhupada&#8221;,  but unfortunately that day I only had three titles with me, so he only  took those. Then he just started, on his own accord, glorifying Srila  Prabhupada to me, saying he is such a great realized master and how  wonderful Srila Prabhupada is, and he thanked me very much for  distributing these books and being out there.</p>
<div align="center"><strong>***</strong></div>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Being the last day of final exams, not too  many students were around and the pickings were slim. So I approached  the only person I saw. Judging by his clothing, demeanor, gait and  haircut he looked as straight as a nail and like some type of a military  kid. I presented the books to him.  He, like many students who are away  from home for the first time and burned out by the end of the year from  too much partying and studying, was not too present or attentive when I  was talking to him. So after I had explained what the books are about,  the guy said, &#8220;So what is it about?&#8221; Obviously he was not listening to  me at all the first time I explained it.  So again I explained it to  him, this time in slow motion. Now he looked up at me and said clearly  and matter-of-factly, &#8220;Yeah, I have been looking for something like  this, thank you so much! Is fifteen dollars ok?&#8221; Then, while looking me  right in the eyes, he just kept on saying to me again and again, &#8220;Thank  you so much, thank you so much, this is awesome!&#8221; </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I was a little surprised at his level of  appreciation and how he said he has been looking for something like  this, so I asked him, &#8220;What is it about this that you&#8217;ve been looking  for?&#8221; He replied that when he grew up he was religious, but he got out  of it, came to college and got into partying and drinking. But the scene  got old really quick. He wanted to quit drinking and get his life  together and do something with himself because, in his words, he really  just lost himself. So he found the books important and special and was  grateful. He assured me he would read them. Thanking me a few more  times, he walked away with the greatest gift one human being can give to  another &#8211; Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">If you would like some of Srila  Prabhupada&#8217;s original, authorized (pre-1978) books to bring with you in  your daily life to distribute, please goto <strong><a href="http://krishnastore.com" target="_blank">www.KrishnaStore.com</a></strong>. </p>
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		<title>History of the Bhagavad Gita Changes</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not all of Srila Prabhupada's disciples share Jayadvaita's and the formal GBC decisions to make so many changes to Srila Prabhupada's books. We see a very real and holy sacredness in the books that Srila Prabhupada personally gave approval of and used in lectures for years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all of Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s disciples share Jayadvaita&#8217;s and the formal GBC decisions to make so many changes to Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books. We see a very real and holy sacredness in the books that Srila Prabhupada personally gave approval of and used in lectures for years.</p>
<p>I am not opposed to correction of a limited few and obvious grammatical errors, but I have been opposed to the massive Gita changes since the very beginning, long before I knew there were massive changes in the editing, or what all the changes were.</p>
<p>We were in Detroit in the early 80&#8217;s when a number of the GBC members held a closed door secret meeting where they discussed the changes to Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books. At the time of the meeting they would not even tell us what the meeting was about.</p>
<p>[Note from Madhudvisa dasa: I have checked the story Ameyatma Prabhu gives with Brahmananda Prabhu who was present at the time and who knows the details and while the "gist" of what he says is true, there does seem to be a slight misunderstanding as to exactly what Prabhupada did. According to Brahmananda Prabhu Srila Prabhupada signed a contract with Macmillan that gave them the exclusive rights to print his <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</em>, however he included a clause in the contract with Macmillan which stated that if the book went out of print the copyrights would return to him. As BBT were really the main customer for this book from Macmillan at some point Srila Prabhupada told the BBT to slow down and eventually stop the <em>Gita </em>orders from Macmillan. And eventually Macmillan did not reprint Prabhupada's <em>Gita </em>so it went out of print and the copyrights returned to Srila Prabhupada. In any case the result of this is the same as the story Ameyatma Prabhu tells on his Sampradaya Sun story. So this is actually a confirmation of the incidents he mentions. One of the reasons BBT purchasing the unabridged <em>Gita </em>from Macmillan was unworkable was that Macmillan would charge the BBT about three times the printing cost, whereas if the BBT printed the book themselves they would only have to pay the printing cost.]</p>
<p>On regaining the rights to his unabridged Gita, Srila Prabhupada gave Ramesvara instructions regard future printing. In those instructions it is my understanding that there was absolutely no mention by Srila Prabhupada that the wording should be Changed!!! Prabhupada had used that <em>Gita </em>for years. He gave classes from it, and we have no record of him ever asking that massive changes be made. That it be edited and changed to make it &#8216;perfect&#8217;. Where are such orders from Prabhupada?</p>
<p>Ramesvara, at the time, told the artists, including myself, what changes Srila Prabhupada requested, and it was concerning the paintings. Ramesvara never mentioned to us, and we also knew the BBT proof readers and editors as well at that time, and they never mentioned any order by Srila Prabhupada to edit the wording. The only instruction Ramesvara told us, either the same day Prabhupada gave the instruction, or just days after, was that he wanted many more paintings.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada ultimately wanted 108 full color plates, but told Ramesvara that in the next printing there should be Minimum 54. 54 is 1/2 of 108. Ramesvara told us that Prabhupada wanted, in the next printing, a minimum of 54 color plates.</p>
<p>But, there was no BBT printing until the early 1980&#8217;s, when the mass changes to wording were made. I was still in Detroit when the new changed printing came out. It had been many years since the last MacMillan prints were made. ISKCON / BBT had either run out, or very low on Gitas, so, this printing was long awaited and long needed. When I got the new Gita, the first thing I noticed was the changed cover. That bothered me, as Srila Prabhupada had not asked for the cover to be changed. He wanted new paintings to be added, but had told Ramesvara not to change the existing ones. Why the cover was changed? Then, I immediately thumbed through to look at the paintings. The paintings were the first thing, because I knew what Prabhupada told Ramesvara, to increase them, 54 minimum. I was shocked and bewildered. There were not more paintings, there were no 54 paintings, there were far FEWER color plates.</p>
<p>And, worse, the disciplic succession was taken out of that printing. In the MacMillan <em>Gita </em>aside from Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s picture there is Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, Srila Gaur Kishore, and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur. But, in the new &#8216;changed&#8217; Gita there was only Srila Prabhupada. All the other Acaryas had been removed. My heart sank. And, I knew that very second that Srila Prabhupada was not pleased with that new botched reprint. This was NOT what he asked for. A few weeks later Ramesvara visited Detroit, where I was living, and I made an appointment to see him privately. I asked him, point-blank, why the past Acaryas were removed? His face remained stern and quiet, then I reminded him of Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s instructions to him, that there be minimum 54 plates, and yet, this new changed Gita had fewer prints? Ramesvara took the defensive and became immediately angry. He raised his voice and said, &#8220;Ameyatma, you are not a Preacher. You are not a real devotee of Caitanya Mahaprabhu because you have no understanding how to Preach.&#8221; He said that that instruction by Srila Prabhupada was not practical. And that what Srila Prabhupada really wanted, more then increasing the number of color plates, what he really wanted was More Books distributed. Ramesvara argued that adding color prints to 54 would have raised the cost of printing so high that no book distributors would be able to sell it. To keep the costs below $3.50, so that book distributors could sell at $5, he not only did not increase the color plates, but he purposefully took many out, to reduce the cost, to keep the costs lower.</p>
<p>But, I countered that Prabhupada&#8217;s order was to be followed, and that we should not try to think we are more intelligent. If we simply follow what he wanted, then the result will be perfect. If we thwart what he wanted, then no good result will come.</p>
<p>This logic simply made Ramesvara raging mad with anger. He pounded his fist on the table and repeatedly shouted, &#8220;You are not a Preacher, Ameyatma, you are not a book distributor and therefore you are not a real devotee of Lord Caitanya, therefore you have no understanding. Because you don&#8217;t distribute books, you can&#8217;t know what Prabhupada wants. He said he wanted more pictures, but a preacher knows he really wants more books. You are simply a fault-finder, finding fault with the real devotees of Caitanya, and finding fault with the real preachers.&#8221; And, then he went on lecturing me how I was so fallen, and boasted how he was now an Acarya, and that I was committing a great offense by trying to find fault with him about his decisions.</p>
<p>That meeting left a black rotten taste in my mouth. This was the attitude and mood behind the printing and changes of the new <em>Gita</em>! At the time I had absolutely no knowledge that there was even one grammatical change made, what to speak of en mass. All I knew was the attitude behind the changes to what Srila Prabhupada said he wanted was wrong. Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s instructions were thrown out, what he wanted was thrown out, and other opposite changes occurred.</p>
<p>From that day onward, I wanted absolutely nothing to do with the new changed <em>Gita</em>, and as I said, it had nothing to do with the changed edits that Jayadvaita made. I had my own separate reasons for rejecting the new <em>Gita</em>. The taking out of the past Acaryas was proof enough to me that Ramesvara was the one who had no real understanding. And, his angry defensive attitude during our meeting finalized my conclusion, that the new changed <em>Gita </em>was not at all pleasing to Srila Prabhupada. Thus, I kept my original <em>Gita </em>ever since, and for years had no other <em>Gita </em>at home.</p>
<p>Years went by, and sometime around 1996 or 97 or so while living in Alachua, Virabahu was visiting Alachua. He was GBC for Alachua at the time. We were old friends back before he had become a guru and then GBC, so I invited my old friend over to my house for a program. He agreed to come and probably 50+ devotees came for the program. On arriving, he asked me for a <em>Gita </em>so he could give <em>Gita </em>class. I handed him my original MacMillan copy.</p>
<p>Now, at the time I had avoided the controversy over the changes that Jayadvaita made. I simply did not want the new changed <em>Gita </em>due to the above reasons. But, many years had gone by, and in 96-97 I wasn&#8217;t even thinking about it. When I handed Virabahu the Original <em>Gita</em>, his out-reached hand jerked back when he saw it was the original <em>Gita</em>. He then looked at me incredulously and said, &#8220;Why are you handing me this <em>Gita</em>?&#8221; I wasn&#8217;t into politics, I had no idea what his problem was. I said, &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong, this is the only <em>Gita </em>I have&#8221;. He said, &#8220;What? I can&#8217;t give class from that <em>Gita</em>&#8220;. Then he turned to others in the room and said, &#8220;Can someone go home and get me a BBT <em>Gita</em>&#8220;. This created a bit of a stir, and one devotee come over to me and asked what sort of political statement was I trying to pull off by handing Virabahu an original <em>Gita</em>? Another told me that was so uncool and fallen of me to try and force Virabahu to give class from &#8220;one of those&#8221; <em>Gitas</em>.</p>
<p>That was it. Before then I had avoided the Changes controversy. But, what the HELL was going on? This had been my One and Only <em>Gita </em>for nearly 25 years at that point. It was the SAME (version) <em>Gita </em>that Srila Prabhupada had given classes from all over the world for years. It was the SAME <em>Gita </em>that he fought for to get back the full printing rights to. This was Prabhupada&#8217;s <em>Gita</em>, and yet, here a GBC treated it like poison, like it was a deviant political statement to give class for &#8216;that&#8217; (banned?) <em>Gita</em>.</p>
<p>We know of no instruction by Srila Prabhupada asking us to make massive changes to that <em>Gita</em>. When he won back the full printing rights to HIS <em>Gita</em>, He only asked that we increase the number of color plates, he Did NOT ask that we edit it and change verse after verse after verse. Until that day I had no idea what the controversy was over the &#8216;changes&#8217;, I had my own reasons for rejecting the new changes. But, after that, I could see, again, a sick attitude by those who supported the changes. Virabahu jerked back his hand and would not even touch the original <em>Gita</em>, as if it were poison to him. Others told me it was a political statement to give a class from that <em>Gita</em>. GREAT then, I will make it a political statement in their eyes, if that is how they see it. This is the SAME <em>Gita </em>Srila Prabhupada spoke from, had read to him, gave classes on. And, they won&#8217;t even touch it, seeing it as poison.</p>
<p>So, you have your way of seeing things, and may side with Jayadvaita, but not all Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s disciples see it that way. Some do get upset and terse in their language at times, but that does not negate the underlying issue. It is simply an easy cop out for you to label us all as fallen fault-finders. For those who disagree, over the years we have had no voice, and so it gets very frustrating in dealing with those whom we disagree with. The GBC has, formally, stood behind the changes, and they are the ones who have politicized the issue, as I saw personally in the actions of Virabahu, who jerked his hand back and refused to touch Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s original <em>Gita</em>, and refused to give a class using the same version that Srila Prabhupada himself used. He is the one who made a bold political statement that night, I simply didn&#8217;t have any other <em>Gita</em>, I wasn&#8217;t trying to make any such statement, but he and his followers did. And, I do not agree with their political views. I consider his view, his actions, and those the GBC and Jayadvaita Swami as deviant, politically based, and fallen.</p>
<p>Here is excerpt of what Srila Prabhupada had to say about those RASCALS who make numerous changes to his books:</p>
<p><strong>Yasoda-nandana:</strong> In the Gurukula we were teaching Isopanisad class to the children. So we took&#8230; [break] &#8230;Prabhupada and the words which the recent edition of the Press is wrong. Many changes were brought. They were trying to make better English, but sometimes, to make better English, I think they were making philosophical mistakes also. There is no so much need of making so much better English. Your English is sufficient. It is very clear, very simple. We have caught over 125 changes. They&#8217;re changing so many things. We are wondering if this is necessary? I will show you today. I have kept the book.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> I know what these rascals are doing. What can be done? How they can be relied on?</p>
<p><strong>Svarupa Damodara:</strong> It&#8217;s not the responsibility of the BBT trustee, to see these things don&#8217;t change without Prabhupada&#8217;s sanction?</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> And Ramesvara is indulging this. The great rascal is that Jagannatha? He&#8217;s there in Los Angeles.</p>
<p><strong>Tamala Krsna:</strong> Jagannatha dasa?</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> Maybe.</p>
<p><strong>Indian devotee (2):</strong> Jagannatha-suta.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> Jagannatha-suta.</p>
<p><strong>Tamala Krsna:</strong> No&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> And the one rascal is gone.<br />
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Tamala Krsna:</strong> Nitai.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> It is starting. What can I do? These cannot&#8230; These rascals cannot be educated. Dangerous. Little learning, dangerous. So how to correct? The leader of th<br />
ese dangerous &#8212; Radha-vallabha.<br />
<strong><br />
Tamala Krsna:</strong> Radha-vallabha?</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> Hm. He&#8217;s a dangerous, who maintains these rascal with this work. He&#8217;ll always have questions and alteration. That is his business. That is American business. They take that always. What can I do? Ultimate, it goes for editorial. They make changes, such changes.</p>
<p>[see my note below, why Prabhupada was so much against Radha Ballabha, and what Prabhupada meant by he is maintaining these rascals]</p>
<p><strong>Tamala Krsna:</strong> Your original work that you&#8217;re doing now, that is edited by Jayadvaita. That&#8217;s the first editing.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> He is good.</p>
<p><strong>Tamala Krsna:</strong> He is good. But then, after they print the books, they&#8217;re going over. So when they reprint&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> So how to check this? How to stop this?</p>
<p><strong>Tamala Krsna:</strong> They should not make any changes without consulting Jayadvaita.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> But they are doing without any authority.<br />
<strong><br />
Svarupa Damodara: </strong>I think we should make whole survey, all books already printed, before printing the next batch and check any mistakes so that it should be all corrected. Otherwise, if the scholars find out that there are so many mistakes in the books, then the quality and the appreciation will be reduced.</p>
<p><strong>Giriraja(?): </strong>(indistinct)</p>
<p><strong>Svarupa Damodara: </strong>Yes. We find so far that they are appreciating so much within the scholarly circle, and we want to maintain that actually.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> Very serious feature. It is not possible for me to check, and they are doing all nonsense, freedom. (pause)</p>
<p>[hmm, this should be discussed. Prabhupada did not want them to make so many edits and changes, but, he says here, it is not possible for him to check them, to stop them. That is an interesting statement. He cites Ramesvara later as being the director behind all this, and Prabhupada wanted it stopped, but could not do so himself at the time - interesting ]</p>
<p><strong>Yasoda-nandana:</strong> Jaya Srila Prabhupada.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> What to do?</p>
<p><strong>Tamala Krsna:</strong> I think Svarupa Damodara&#8217;s point, that all the books should now be checked before they&#8217;re reprinted again&#8230; And they have to be checked not by some so-called learned Sanskrit man but by a learned devotee. Just like you always favored Jayadvaita because his Krsna consciousness&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> Jayadvaita, Satsvarupa&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Yasoda-nandana:</strong> Bhakti-prema, Satsvarupa is there.</p>
<p><strong>Tamala Krsna:</strong> So Bhakti-prema&#8230; That&#8217;s a good solution.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada: </strong>It is very serious situation. Ramesvara is in direct&#8230;<br />
<strong><br />
Svarupa Damodara:</strong> I think they&#8217;re working too independently without consulting properly.<br />
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Yasoda-nandana:</strong> Sometimes they appeal that &#8220;We can make better English,&#8221; so they change like that, just like in the case of Isopanisad. There are over a hundred changes. So where is the need? Your words are sufficient. The potency is there. When they change, it is something else.</p>
<p>[NOTE That Yasodanandana is speaking of changes to the English, and that Prabhupada agrees, he is opposed to such changes also, the Sanskrit editing was also mentioned, but, the main changes made to Isopanishad were English changes, and that Prabhupada also opposes this. Svarup Damodar was speaking of major editing, but, Prabhupada does not really discuss the idea, he does not really agree to that idea, he is simply calling those who made the changes, RASCALS ]<br />
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Svarupa Damodara: </strong>That&#8217;s actually a very dangerous mentality.</p>
<p><strong>Yasoda-nandana:</strong> What is it going to be in five years? It&#8217;s going to be a different book.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> So you&#8230; What you are going&#8230; It is very serious situation. You write one letter that &#8220;Why you have made so many changes?&#8221; And whom to write? Who will care? All rascals are there. Write to Satsvarupa that &#8220;This is the position. They are doing anything and everything at their whim.&#8221; The next printing should be again to the original way.</p>
<p>[They made "so many changes" Prabhupada says, so the NEXT PRINTING SHOULD BE AGAIN TO THE ORIGINAL WAY" That is how many of us feel today. Way TOO Many changes have been made, wholesale, we should simply go back to the original and respect the SACREDNESS of Srila Prabhupada's work. ]</p>
<p>&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada:</strong> So write them immediately that &#8220;The rascal editors, they are doing havoc, and they are being maintained by Ramesvara and party.&#8221;<br />
<strong><br />
Tamala Krsna: </strong>Sometimes there&#8217;s a fear that some word will be unpopular, and on account of desire to gain popularity or acceptance, they lessen the strength of the word. They change the word. They choose a word which is more so-called acceptable.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Prabhupada: </strong>So you bring this to Satsvarupa. They cannot change anything.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>[My dear Jnanagamya, what about this instruction by Srila Prabhupada. He said, next printing go back to the Original, and then he says, They Can NOT Change ANYTHING. What about these words from our Guru Maharaj? regarding changes to his books???? ]<br />
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Prabhupada:</strong> So on the whole, these dangerous things are going on. How to check it?</p>
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Prabhupada: </strong>So they are doing very freely and dangerously. And this rascal is always after change, Radha-vallabha. He&#8217;s a great rascal.</p>
<p>(Conversation, &#8220;Rascal Editors,&#8221; and Morning Talk &#8212; June 22, 1977, Vrndavana)</p>
<p>First, about Radha-vallabha. In &#8216;76, Srila Prabhupada came to LA and took a tour of the BBT offices. Prabhupada found that many <em>grhastas </em>were being maintained by the BBT. So, Prabhupada said, no salaries, BBT was not to hire <em>grhastas</em>. He said all work was to be VOLUNTARY. <em>Grhastas</em>, he said, should get outside job and work outside to earn income, then they can volunteer service for the BBT in the evenings and weekends. And, <em>brahmacaris</em>, he said, they can do service and be maintained by the temple, but not the <em>grhastas</em>. Besides, BBT was paying for their apartments, paying the temple for their meals, and paying them salary. Even though it was stipend, living in poverty, Prabhupada on principal did not want BBT to maintain <em>grhastas</em>. All service to BBT must be voluntary.</p>
<p>This Jagannath Suta was <em>grhasta</em> and BBT was paying him. Srila Prabhupada wanted him off BBT payroll. But, Radha-vallabha rejected this idea. He argued with Prabhupada that these <em>grhastas </em>(including himself) were essential to the operation of the BBT, that book publication, and then distribution will suffer and decrease if they follow what Prabhupada wanted. Prabhupada insisted, and in the end, Ramesvar and Radha-vallabha kept maintaining most of the <em>grhastas</em>, and that has been followed ever since.</p>
<p>Like the Archives, or Sura, etc., these <em>grhastas </em>are maintained by BBT funds, and Prabhupada&#8217;s instruction was that all such <em>grhastas </em>go work outside, maintain themselves, then do Voluntary SERVICE for the BBT. Prabhupada&#8217;s instructions and orders were ignored, disobeyed and thwarted and not followed. Radha-vallabha himself was <em>grhasta</em> then, and Prabhupada also wanted him to get outside job, work and maintain himself, and just render SERVICE to the BBT. But, he and Ramesvara refused to obey Prabhupada&#8217;s direct instructions to them. Thus, months before Prabhupada departs, the last thing he has to say about Radha-vallabha is he is calling him RASCAL, a Great Rascal, and<br />
he is also implicating Ramesvara, he is directing, he is behind all this.</p>
<p>When this Jagannath Suta was finally let go by the BBT, he got very upset and left ISKCON and became a born again Christian and began preaching against ISKCON, and against Srila Prabhupada. Just see.</p>
<p>But, what started this conversation? CHANGES to his books. 125 changes to the Isopanishad. Srila Prabhupada was not pleased at all. He never said, oh, they found so many errors, good work. He never asked, oh, so many errors, what were they? He did not care what changes they made, but, wholesale changes he was against. Only others are suggesting that they go through and make changes to his books and try to make them perfect. Only others make that suggestion, and no where does Prabhupada actually agree, rather, he says things like, What is to be done? What to do? And says, it is now starting&#8230;. When he does state what HE wants, he says write a letter and tell them NO CHANGES, and he says, Next Printing, go back to the ORIGINAL. Others suggested changing to make it so called &#8216;perfect&#8217; but those were not Prabhupada&#8217;s words, not his suggestion, not his request, not his order. His order is, NO CHANGES &#8211; Go Back To The ORIGINAL.</p>
<p>That is what so many of us want. We are fed up with all the changes, changes, changes. We see this conversation and we hear Srila Prabhupada is not happy with changes, others suggest changes, but, he says NO CHANGES Go Back to the Original.</p>
<p>Devotees have been crying fowl for over 30 years, for at least the last 25, and the GBC calls us fault-finders, even when we have presented our side in a civil and respectful way. So, devotees like Hasti are simply expressing their frustration in dealing with this. So, he used sarcasm and you see that as fault-finding mentality. Sorry, after being ignored and labeled in derogatory terms for simply wanting to see that Prabhupada&#8217;s orders are carried out, No Changes, go Back to the Original &#8211; we want his Sacred Works preserved &#8211; AS They WERE, otherwise, we see this conversation and we see how Prabhupada was upset, calling them all RASCALS, and we are fed up. We point out they are rascals, and we are demonized. Hopefully you can see the real issue we have with the changes to the books.</p>
<p>Aspiring to become your worthy and humble servant,</p>
<p>Ameyatma das</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Śrīla Prabhupāda doesn’t want them “closer to his original words.” He wants them, except for obvious typographical errors, to be exactly the way they were when they were originally published! Is this not completely obvious to anyone who is not a self-motivated fool!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between 1969 and 1973, I sometimes recorded Śrīla Prabhupāda’s temple room classes / lectures in Boston, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and New Vrindavan (near Moundsville, West Virginia). Those recordings are among the ones now being distributed by the Bhaktivedanta Archives (Sandy Ridge, North Carolina) on cassette tapes, CDs and MP3 CD-ROMs. At the beginning of every class, Śrīla Prabhupāda, while sitting on the vyāsāsana, would listen to his books being read out loud. I never once heard him object in any way to the way in which his books had been edited to differ from “his original words!” He obviously didn’t want “his original words” to be published. He wanted “his original words” to be changed in exactly the way that the ISKCON Press / BBT editors had changed them, and that’s that!</p>
<p>More than half of the thousands of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s recorded classes / lectures / conversations have been published as MP3 files. Perfect digital copies, with no loss of quality whatsoever, can now be made ad infinitum by anyone in the world. Anyone in the world who follows along in the changed versions of the books while listening to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original books being read in his presence will immediately notice that the books have been changed! What are they going to think? Who, but a completely self-motivated idiot would not be concerned about these discrepancies / inconsistencies in our preaching mission?</p>
<p>Who, but a self-motivated idiot, could fall for: “We are changing the books so that they are closer to Prabhupāda’s original words.” ? Śrīla Prabhupāda doesn’t want them “closer to his original words.” He wants them, except for obvious typographical errors, to be exactly the way they were when they were originally published! Is this not completely obvious to anyone who is not a self-motivated fool!</p>
<p>Everybody is blaming Jayādvaita Svāmī (JAS), but he is not the only culprit. In 1996, I gave a presentation to the BBTI (Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International) trustees at Harikeśa Svāmī’s headquarters near Stockholm, Sweden. The purpose of the presentation was to introduce the trustees to the gurukula (school) books that myself, my wife, and my oldest son had been publishing in Hillsborough, North Carolina. When I asked Harikeśa (HKS) for permission to give the presentation, I got the distinct impression that his decision was final, and that the other BBTI trustees, including JAS, were simply his “yes-men.” A couple of years after that, HKS unexpectedly left ISKCON and the BBTI. Did this create a “power vacuum” that JAS was able to take advantage of? Did the other BBTI trustees switch from being HKS’s to being JAS’s yes-men? In any case, JAS would not have been able to do what he did without the approval of the BBTI trustees and the members of the GBC (ISKCON’s Governing Body Commission). All of the members of the BBTI/GBC, including JAS, are culpable, and they are never going to live it down!</p>
<p>Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the Parameśvara, the Supreme Controller. So why did He allow Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books to be changed? Kṛṣṇa is very tricky. He is expert at tricking the foolish men, who are pretending to be gurus, to reveal themselves to be the unqualified, self-motivated rascals that they actually are! He wanted to make it perfectly clear what completely unqualified, self-motivated idiots the members of the BBTI/GBC guru club actually are! He wanted to show the world who the real devotees are, and who are the self-motivated rascals!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[What really is his point? What exactly is Jayadvaita Swami trying to say? He is an office clerk at best, but factually his meddling in the re-editing of Srila Prabhupada’s works is a sinister, diabolical attempt to undermine the efforts of the Sampradaya Acharya.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just what is Jayadvaita&#8217;s point? That Hayagriva was not qualified as an editor? That Srila Prabhupada was indifferent, stupid or lazy in copying others translations? Or, that because Hayagriva and Srila Prabhupada were not physically side by side for two years, there was some discrepancy in Hayagriva’s work, or, that Srila Prabhupada was unaware of what Hayagriva was doing, and now (in Srila Prabhupada’s absence) had to be corrected by Jayadvaita Swami?</p>
<p>Is this his attempt to justify his envious infintile clerk like editing of Prabhupada’s Gita? What really is his point? What exactly is Jayadvaita Swami trying to say? He is an office clerk at best, but factually his meddling in the re-editing of Srila Prabhupada’s works is a sinister, diabolical attempt to undermine the efforts of the Sampradaya Acharya. He is a putana attempting to usurp the pulpit of the institution in the absence of the self realized soul, Srila Prabhupada.</p>
<p>I was one BBT trustee along with Srila Prabhupada and Bali Mardan when I went to Srila Prabhupada and suggested we reprint his Original Bhagavatams for the pleasure of his devotees who liked the old Indian version… Before finishing my proposal, Srila Prabhupada admonished me saying, “no–whatever Hayagriva has done is perfect, I have full faith in him as the editor of my books.” This was quite some time after the publication of Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad Gita. He went on to say “whatever he (Hayagriva) has done is perfect, do not touch it, I have full faith in him.”</p>
<p>What more can be said about this matter? ISKCON spent hundreds and thousands of dollars fighting in the court with me (Hansadutta) to support Jayadvaita’s bogus position, of re-editing Srila Prabhupada’s books . ISKCON was claiming Srila Prabhupada never was the proprietor of the copyrights, he was in fact a hired hand, supplied with pen paper and office space by ISKCON, and therefore the copyrights belonged to ISKCON. They claimed there never was a BBT formed by Srila Prabhupada, that Hansadutta was never a trustee of any BBT. But the court did not uphold their point of view, and subsequently ISKCON and their lying, cheating gundas and editors had to make a settlement to escape disaster.</p>
<p>Factually the copyright claimed by ISKCON or BBT-international (a bogus shadow organization of the original BBT formed by Srila Prabhupada) has been legally lost to the public domain, and anyone and everyone who likes can print Srila Prabhupada’s books freely. It is being done as we speak and no one will dare to challenge anyone who chooses to print Prabhupada’s books, because ISKCON knows if they go to court they cannot prevail. Fearing a legal ruling that the copyrights are in the public domain they will not prosecute anyone for copyright infringement. Besides that, they have no more money to fight in the court. Let everyone print the books of Srila Prabhupada to their hearts content, rest assured ISKCON will not take any action, because they have long ago lost their claim to legal copyright protection. I should know, I was in the eye of the hurricane.</p>
<p>Your servant,</p>
<p>Hansadutta</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dear Godbrothers and Godsisters:</p>
<p>Please accept my most humble obeisances! All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!</p>
<p>I am very glad that we as disciples of Srila Prabhupada are finally doing something about this great offense to our Spiritual Master. I would like to tell three stories that are personal experiences of mine with Srila Prabhupada and his books. It is my earnest hope that these stories will once and for all lay to rest the controversy of anyone ever editing Srila Prabhupadas books.</p>
<p>The first story takes place in Mayapur where Srila Prabhupada was talking about why he came to the material world.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada said: <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">He (meaning Krishna) asked me to come here and I said that I did not want to go because it was such a dirty place. He (meaning Krishna) told me if you go I will arrange so many nice palaces for you to live in. I said but I do not want to go. He (meaning Krishna) said you just go and write these books and I will make it comfortable for you. So Srila Prabhupada said because He asked me to write these books I came.</span></strong></p>
<p>So here it is quite clear that the main reason why Srila Prabhupada came to this world was to write these books by the order of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Sri Krishna. Is Jayadwaita a Nitya Siddha eternal associate of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Sri Krishna who was ordered to come here to edit these books. If not then <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">he should leave the books alone!</span></strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>Once in Bombay Srila Prabhupada ordered me to come to his room and listen to him preach to some life members.  I sat there and listened for almost an hour. After they left he started to chastise me. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Why are you not coming here everyday to listen to me preach. You are one of my leaders if you do not learn how to preach from me then what will happen?</span></strong> Then he quoted a verse in Sanskrit from <em>Bhagavad Gita </em>and asked me if I knew this verse in English, where it was in the <em>Gita</em>, and what the meaning was. I unfortunately had no answers. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Are you reading my books everyday?</span></strong> he asked. I admitted my neglect. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">If you do not read my books everyday then how will you learn? You are going out to make life members and collect big donations but you are not reading my books. You must read my books every day!</span></strong> Then he said <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Even I read my books everyday. Do you know why?</span></strong> I proffered no answer and waited for the revelation. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Because every time I read these books even I learn something!</span></strong> I sat in stunned silence. Then he asked <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Do you know why I learn something every time I read these books?</span></strong> Now I was completely bewildered <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Because I have not written these books. </span></strong>What transpired next was simply amazing. He looked me very intently making strong direct eye contact. He spoke with great authority but with a mystical mood bordering on the ecstatic as he began to describe how His books are written. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Everyday</span></strong> He said <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">When I sit down here to write these books</span></strong> He was now looking into space waving His hands in the air His voice filled with Transcendental emotion <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Krishna personally comes and dictates every word.</span></strong> I got the sense that Krishna was present in the room at that moment but I was too blind to see Him. Now Srila Prabhupada returned His eyes to mine <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> Therefore</span></strong> He said <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Whenever I read these books even I learn something and if you read my books everyday you will also learn something every time you read them.</span></strong></p>
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<p>So here it is quite clear that just like Valldeva Vidya bhushana and other great Acharyas in our line Srila Prabhupada received direct dictation from Krishna when he was writing His books. Is Jayadwaita receiving direct dictation from the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Sri Krishna when he edits the books? If not then <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">he should leave the books alone!</span></strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>Before we move on to the last story we should examine in more detail some of the inner meanings of Srila Prabhupada’s descent into the material world for the purpose of writing these books. Whenever the Supreme Lord descends he always brings with him his entourage. Similarly when a greatly advanced Nitya Siddha devotee appears in this world a few associates from the spiritual world and many highly developed souls with great amounts of <em>sukriti </em>from the material world come to join him. In a lecture in Los Angeles on the appearance day of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur, Srila Prabhupada wept openly as he told the devotees that they had all been sent here to assist him by His Guru Maharaj. It is not an accident that Srila Prabhupadas style of writing from the early <em>Srimad Bhagavatams </em>was a flowery British English which is derived from the poly-syllabic Mediterranean languages. It is not an accident that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur sent Srila Prabhupada Hyagriva who was a writer and ardent admirer of the early American transcendentalists like Emerson and Thoreau who wrote in a similar poetic style. It is not an accident that Srila Prabhupada spent hours pouring over the manuscripts, the paintings, etc editing and adjusting everything so it was just right. None of these things are accidents, the pastimes of the pure devotee are transcendental.</p>
<p>Unfortunately some people have a mundane view of the Spiritual masters activities and think that they can improve on what is already perfect even if there are some so called discrepancies.  Even if the verses are imperfectly composed they are transcendentally potent none the less.  Does Jayadwaita have any absolute evidence in writing from Srila Prabhupada that approves every single change that he makes? Unless Jayadwaita was sent here personally by Sri Krishna for this purpose or is taking dictation from the Supreme Lord then his adjustments are simply speculation or personal preference. Jayadwaita was not invited into the editing process by Srila Prabhupada. One good reason could be Jayadwaita’s writing style. Jayadwaita favors the short choppy English form influenced by the Viking languages which is used more for business and common literature like magazines and newspapers. This was his style at BTG and that is not acceptable for poetic scripture. Jayadwaitas problem is he just doesn’t get it. The Disciples of Srila Prabhupada want that <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">he should leave the books alone!</span></strong></p>
<p>He has taken a very slim 1 vote margin of the GBC to fix some typos to changing the entire meaning of the texts.  Without Srila Prabhupada’s personal presence to confirm the changes he is making, from old tapes and manuscripts which have not been accurately cataloged, he cannot be sure that Srila Prabhupada did not already reject those versions in favor of what is already in the book. What we are absolutely sure of is that Srila Prabhupada approved of each book that was printed after extensively reviewing it. Therefore whatever has been signed off on by Srila Prabhupada while he was here on the planet cannot be changed period. You may add an errata or addendum in the back of the book if you have some serious concerns but the actual texts and purports themselves must not be adjusted in any way. To do so is to insult Srila Prabhupada, and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur by doubting their transcendental plan. To do so is to insult Sri Krishna as the Supreme arranger. To do so without a mandate from Sri Guru and Gouranga is to place your own speculation above the Supreme Lord and His Divine emmisaries. Without the Nitya Siddha Pure Devotee present to confirm the changes we are allowing the mental speculation of one man to destroy the absolute nature of the most important scriptures for the next 10,000 years. Jayadwaita <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">leave the books alone!</span></strong></p>
<p>Now to Let us see how a purely devoted disciple of His Divine Grace approached the translating and editing process.</p>
<p>After Srila Prabhupada’s departure there is a little known pastime, that will not remain so after this letter goes on your website, where Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj helped to reveal the unrivalled perfection of Srila Prabhupada’s masterful translation of <em>Bhagavad Gita</em>. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was given the service by Srila Prabhupada of translating all of His books into the Orissan language. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was a great scholar who could write and speak in five languages, Orissan, Hindi, Bengali, English, and Sanskrit. He got his degree in English from the University with a minor in Sanskrit. I lived with Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj  in the same room for nearly 3 years. He translated Srila Prabhupadas <em>Bhagavad Gita </em>with the greatest love and devotion and attention for detail. Because of His vast command of languages He was able to notice little details that others may have overlooked. One thing that was a cause of great transcendental concern for Him was the fact that when Srila Prabhupada translated a word from Sanskrit to English it would not be the same if Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj translated the Sanskrit word directly to Oriya. In other words the English word that Srila Prbhupada used to explain the Sanskrit word had an entirely different meaning than the Oriya word that would normally be used as a translation of this same Sanskrit word.  Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was concerned that in translating the literal English into Oriya that many Pandits and Scholars would complain that this was not an accurate translation.</p>
<p>Since Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj did not want to change one single word of His beloved Spiritual Masters books but at the same time be able to defend the scholarships of His Guru Maharaj beyond the shadow of a doubt, He devised a plan for writing down all of the so called contradictions in a list until he completed the entire work. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj then went to a little village to see the now retired Sanskrit professor who had taught Him Sanskrit in college. This man was considered one of the foremost authorities on the Sanskrit Language in India having one of the largest personal libraries on the subject, including one of the best collections of Sanskrit to English Dictionaries. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj knew that this scholars grasp of Sanskrit to English translation would provide him with the evidence he needed to prove the authority of Srila Prabhupada’s work.</p>
<p>After about ten days Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj returned to the little mud hut that we lived in with the Sanskrit professor in tow. The Sanskrit professor introduced himself (I apologize but unfortunately I cannot remember his name) and began glorifying His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada’s masterful translation work. The Professor told me that he started studying Sanskrit when he was five years old, now in his late 70’s he had been studying the language for over 70 years. He told me how on the first review of his dictionaries he could not find the translations that Srila Prbhupada had made from Sanskrit to English, but he said that Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj kept encouraging him to keep looking, assuring him that he would find the translation if he looked long and hard enough. The professor said he would have given up if it were not for Srila Gour Govinda Maharajs insistence that His Guru Maharaj had been accurate and that if he looked hard enough he would find it. Then the professor told me that he found each and every translation that Srila Prbhupada had made. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The professor told me that these translations that your Guru has made are the most obscure and brilliant explanations of these words from Sanskrit to English that he had ever seen. The professor admitted that with all of his education and training he could not have thought of these obscure and brilliant meanings that so perfectly expressed the inner truths of the mysteries of the <em>Bhagavad Gita</em>. The professor then said having seen this translation work of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada he was convinced that Srila Prabhupada was the greatest Sanskrit scholar in the history of civilization and must have been directly enlightened by the Supreme Lord Krishna to accomplish this work. </span></strong></p>
<p>There is so much to learn from this pastime. The first thing of course is that no one is qualified to edit one single word of Srila Prabhupada’s books period! Unless he is on the same level as His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada and since it is pretty obvious Jayadwaita is not then <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">he should leave the books alone!</span></strong></p>
<p>Now some may say how do we know he is not and the answer to that is the second important lesson that we learn from this pastime. Unlike Jayadwaita who has changed the words of his Spiritual masters books in order to meet with the approval of scholars and professors. The pure devotional attitude of Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was to elevate the professor by engaging him in devotional service and then bring him up to a spiritual platform so that he could get the mercy of Srila Prabhupada. Instead of acting like and editor and scholar Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj teaches us how to protect and defend the honor of the Spiritual Master through His Pure Devotional mood.</p>
<p>Jayadwaita’s erasing the words of our Divine Master Srila Prbbhupada and replacing them with his mental speculations reminds me of the story when the Mayavadi scratched out the name of Krishna in the book and replaced it with the word Brahman. Krishna eventually appears before him with scratches on His face the Mayavadi realizes his folly and surrenders to the Lord. Srila Prabhupada’s books are his transcendental body how much longer are we going to sit back and let his books be abused. If Srila Prabhupada were here and some one was abusing him would we stand by idly and watch it happen! NO! Why do we continue to allow Jayawaita to abuse our Spiritual Masters books. Can we not stand up in the pure Devotional mood of Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj and defend the Honor of our Spiritual Master.</p>
<p>Let us all work together to restore Srila Prabhupada’s books to their pristine and uncontaminated glory. Then let us distribute those books again and preach the pure devotional service of the Lord to the innocent masses yearning to be free of the shackles of maya. Let us enter the arena of the material world proclaiming the Glories of the Lord with the absolute conviction that we can only benefit everyone we meet with the highest good. If any demoniac persons try to stop us then we should proudly proclaim like the Christians of old being attacked by the lions in the Roman coliseum that we are the servants of the Lord and our spiritual master and we are fearless.</p>
<p>Your most worthless servant</p>
<p>Bhagavat Das</p>
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		<title>Book Changes: A Dangerous Precedent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhaktisiddhartha Dasanudas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find Jayadvaita’s attitude inexplicable. In spiritual life, if many senior devotees and Godbrothers make critical comments about our service, we are duty-bound to accept them politely and consider them seriously, in light of the fact that we know that we are imperfect and full of flaws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hare Krsna!</p>
<p>I have been a devotee since 1967, and joined ISKCON in Miami in 1971. In 1974 I served as a proofreader for Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Caitanya-caritamrta</em>, <em>Madhya-lila </em>Vol. 6, 7 &amp; 8, and as comprehension editor on <em>Antya-lila</em>, Vols. 2 &amp; 3. From 1980 to 2000 I worked as a technical editorial consultant in the IT field, writing and publishing many articles, books and websites on technical subjects. I also published many temple newsletters and fund-raising pieces at ISKCON temples from Bombay to Chicago. More recently I published my own books on spiritual subjects: <em>Here Be Wisdom</em>, <em>Sri Visnusahasranama</em>, <em>Sri Nrsimhasahasranama</em>, <em>The Book of Gethsemane</em>, and <em>Search for the Absolute Truth</em>. At present I am editing some of Srila Narayana Maharaja’s translations of the books of the Six Gosvamis. So I do have some acquaintance with literary work.</p>
<p>I find Jayadvaita’s attitude inexplicable. In spiritual life, if many senior devotees and Godbrothers make critical comments about our service, we are duty-bound to accept them politely and consider them seriously, in light of the fact that we know that we are imperfect and full of flaws. Jayadvaita’s arrogance is rather non-devotional. He belittles his critics and uses ad hominem arguments against them. He refuses to acknowledge that he may have any fault at all. This arrogance is not the soft-hearted, humble attitude of an advanced devotee.</p>
<p>Jayadvaita conveniently overlooks the second definition of bowdlerizing, which is extant in any fine dictionary, especially the Oxford unabridged edition, which is the standard dictionary Srila Prabhupada used in his literary work. Perhaps Jayadvaita is unaware of this fact, and referred to a less complete dictionary. Besides denoting expurgation, bowdlerizing can also refer to any unauthorized editing, especially to alter the doctrine or philosophy expressed by a work. This usage certainly applies to Jayadvaita’s Gita, in which he has altered the original meaning of many passages.</p>
<p>Then he compares his editorial work with Srila Vyasadeva’s division of the Vedas. Please, we all know that Vyasadeva is an incarnation of God, and all of us are neophytes. But that is no excuse for being unaware of the standards of our <em>sampradaya</em>. There is really no precedent in our <em>sampradaya </em>for posthumous, unapproved changes to an acarya’s books. If a devotee needs to clarify a previous acarya’s work for the understanding of his contemporaries, he writes a separate <em>tika </em>and appends it to the original work, leaving the previous acaryas’ commentaries unchanged. This is the accepted practice in the <em>Gaudiya-sampradaya</em>. One wonders from Jayadvaita’s attitude whether he considers himself bound by the literary conventions of the <em>Gaudiya-sampradaya</em>, or fancies himself an independent authority.</p>
<p>This controversy is a prime example of what can happen when we detach ourselves from regulation by superior authorities, and adopt the ascending method of attempting to attain self-realization by our own efforts. While the original edition of Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is </em>was produced under the author’s careful personal guidance, Jayadvaita worked independently without the benefit of accepting the personal guidance of a self-realized pure devotee. The difference in tone and contrast in content is self-evident.</p>
<p>Just as a raging forest fire cannot be extinguished except by a downpour of mercy rain, we cannot realize Krsna consciousness except by the mercy of previous authorities, the perfectly self-realized <em>acaryas</em>. Although Jayadvaita has sung this hymn every morning since he joined ISKCON, it appears not to have sunk in, since he relied on his own strength instead of approaching senior Gaudiya Vaisnava authorities for advice and guidance in preparing his <em>Gita</em>.</p>
<p>In my experience, Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is </em>is a rich, multidimensional work, its satisfyingly substantial paragraphs resonating with poetic language and redolent with the fragrance of carefully guarded references to the <em>adi-rasa</em>, or Krsna’s pastimes of conjugal love. There is one confidential conversation that Srila Prabhupada had with Srila Sridhar Maharaja during the period of his household life, where Srila Prabhupada reveals his realization of these veiled esoteric references in <em>Bhagavad-gita</em>.</p>
<p>Jayadvaita’s work not only completely misses, and in fact obscures this recodnite point, but also his edition of the <em>Gita</em> reads very flat, as if it were a technical work on philosophy instead of a disciple’s sensitive rendition of an ecstatic devotional poem. While there is everything to be said for clear phrasing and standardized terminology in an analytical work, Jayadvaita’s <em>Gita </em>is far the less for his editorializing. No matter how acceptible it may be to scholars and the general public, <em>bhakti </em>covered by <em>jnana </em>or <em>karma </em>is not accepted as pure devotional service by authorities in our line.</p>
<p>In the final analysis, we must judge by the results. Srila Prabhupada left us an expanding preaching field with booming book distribution. Twenty-five years after his apparent disappearance, book distribution is devastated. After so many scandals, the general public regards even the words ‘Hare Krsna’ with disdain. Srila Prabhupada presided over a dynamic, expansive worldwide association. But now ISKCON has shrunk to the point where there are more deities than devotees at many centers, and recently the North American temples declared bankruptcy. How would Srila Prabhupada respond to this news?</p>
<p>The original edition of Srila Prabhupada’s <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is </em>convinced many people, myself included, that ISKCON was a serious, spiritually-empowered movement with a philosophy that is at once ecstatic and profound. During the time that Jayadvaita’s edition of the <em>Gita </em>has been distributed around the world, we have seen a dramatic deflation of everything Srila Prabhupada worked for and achieved. I think this is sufficient evidence to convince any clear-thinking person that the general trend in ISKCON, of which Jayadvaita’s <em>Gita </em>happens to be a prime example, has been against the thrust of Srila Prabhupada’s original intention.</p>
<p>Fortunately, by the arrangement of Krsna, Srila Prabhupada’s original <em>Bhagavad-gita As It Is </em>is again in print. We will see how well Jayadvaita’s changed edition fares in the open marketplace against the original empowered, authorized and approved work. It would be far more honest if Jayadvaita would just publish his editorial work under his own name. He is a fine editor; he’s just not a pure devotee on the level of Srila Prabhupada. His edition reflects this fact clearly, but from his comments and attitude, one wonders if he realizes this fact.</p>
<p>All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga,</p>
<p>your servant,</p>
<p>Bhaktisiddhartha Dasanudas</p>
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		<title>Prabhupada Reading His Own Books</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Srutakirti dasa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went into Srila Prabhupada's room to perform my duties and He was sitting and reading "Bhagavad Gita As It Is". He looked at me and said, "If you just read this one book and understand, you will become Krishna Conscious in this very life."]]></description>
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<div><span>Entering Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s quarters was always an enlightening experience. Sometimes Srila Prabhupada sat and read his books. Whenever he read it seemed as if someone else had written his books because he didn&#8217;t read with the mind of an author who might be looking for editing mistakes or grammatical errors. He read them with the relish of a pure devotee reading the pastimes of the Supreme Lord to whom He was completely attached.</span></div>
<div><span>One day in Los Angeles I went into his room to perform my duties and he was sitting and reading <em>Bhagavad Gita As It Is</em>. After I offered obeisances he looked at me and said, &#8220;If you just read this one book and understand, you will become Krishna Conscious in this very life.&#8221;</span></div>
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A few months later when I went into his room, he was reading <em>Nectar of Devotion</em>. He looked at me and said, &#8220;This book is so nice. Just by reading this one book you can become Krishna Conscious.&#8221; </span></div>
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<div><span>Srila Prabhupada teaches us by example. He does everything he asks us to do. He requests us to read his books and he does, too. </span></div>
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<div><span>Entering Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s quarters was always an enlightening experience. Sometimes Srila Prabhupada sat and read His books. Whenever He read it seemed as if someone else had written His books because He didn&#8217;t read with the mind of an author who might be looking for editing mistakes or grammatical errors. He read them with the relish of a pure devotee reading the pastimes of the Supreme Lord to whom He was completely attached.</span></div>
<div><span>One day in Los Angeles I went into His room to perform my duties and He was sitting and reading &#8220;Bhagavad Gita As It Is&#8221;. After I offered obeisances He looked at me and said, &#8220;If you just read this one book and understand, you will become Krishna Conscious in this very life.&#8221;</span></div>
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A few months later when I went into His room, He was reading &#8220;Nectar of Devotion&#8221;. He looked at me and said, &#8220;This book is so nice. Just by reading this one book you can become Krishna Conscious.&#8221; </span></div>
<div><span>Srila Prabhupada teaches us by example. He does everything He asks us to do. He requests us to read His book and He does, too. </span></div>
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		<title>Email from Hridayananda Goswami</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 1998 16:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hridayananda Goswami</dc:creator>
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Dear Madhudvisa Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Thank you for your letter.
I appreciate your intelligent arguments, and your absolute dedication to Srila Prabhupada. I think you have made many good points, and I am not against your viewpoint. [in Open Letter to BBT]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sat, 07 Mar 1998</p>
<p>Dear Madhudvisa Prabhu,</p>
<p>Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.</p>
<p>Thank you for your letter.</p>
<p>I appreciate your intelligent arguments, and your absolute dedication to Srila Prabhupada. I think you have made many good points, and I am not against your viewpoint. [in <strong><a href="http://bookchanges.com/an-open-letter-to-the-bbt-on-book-changes/" target="_blank">Open Letter to BBT</a></strong>]</p>
<p>My only hesitation is when it becomes clear that Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s original dictation has been changed.</p>
<p>One solution might be to keep Prabhupada&#8217;s books exactly as they were published when he was present, but then to put in footnotes explaining what the editors think was really meant. In that way, everyone could be satisfied.</p>
<p>Hoping you are well,</p>
<p>Your servant,</p>
<p>Hridayananda dasa Goswami</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000cd; font-size: large;">Open Letter to Hridayananda Maharaja</p>
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<p><strong>USA</strong> (VNN) &#8211; by Madhudvisa dasa</p>
<p>Dear Hridayananda Maharaja</p>
<p>Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila<br />
Prabhupada!</p>
<p>It is wonderful you are prepared to stand up and fight for Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s desire that his original books remain available to the devotees and the fallen conditioned souls of this world as well.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada was, as you know, very concerned about the changes, so much so that he asked Satsvarupa Maharaja to do something about it as Praghosa Prabhu has mentioned:</p>
<p>Yasoda-nandana: Sometimes they appeal that &#8220;We can make better English,&#8221; so they change like that, just like in the case of the Isopanisad. There are over a hundred changes. So where is the need? Your words are sufficient. The potency is there When they change, it is something else.</p>
<p>Swarupa Damodara: That&#8217;s actually a very dangerous mentality.</p>
<p>Yasoda-nandana: What&#8217;s it going to be in five years? It&#8217;s going to be a different book.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada: So you&#8230;What are you going&#8230;&#8230;It is a very serious situation. You write one letter that &#8220;Why you have made so many changes?&#8221; And whom to write? Who will care? All rascals are there! Write Satsvarupa that &#8220;This is the position. They are doing anything and everything at their whim.&#8221; The next printing should be again to the original way.&#8221;</p>
<p>(HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada) June 22 1977</p>
<p>So I think if you contact Satsvarupa Maharaja, as Praghosa Prabhu has suggested, he will also surely support you in this project to return Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books to their original state.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada has said clearly in the above quote, &#8220;The next printing should be again to the original way,&#8221; and that is the mood of the devotees also. So many devotees have written but none have been very inspired about the idea of footnotes in the books and many are completely opposed to the idea.</p>
<p>If the BBT simply prints Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books in the original form that will be the best thing. Everyone, including the scholars , will understand the books are the original ones and whatever small typos are there will be accepted in that mood.</p>
<p>If you feel it is necessary to publish a small booklet separately with the notes and corrections in it that would be fine, but, as far as I can see, the devotees want to see Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s original books published as he approved of them and used them himself personally and also Srila Prabhupada directly instructed, &#8220;The next printing should be again to the original way.&#8221;</p>
<p>> All Glories to Srila Prabhupada and your service to him. > I am very excited to see you working to restore Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s > Life&#8217;s Work, his &#8220;Masterpiece&#8221; to it&#8217;s original state. Would anyone > dare to revise and correct the works of Da Vinci, Issac Newton, > Shakespeare, Mark Twain or any of the Popes? of course not. And > how much greater is the transcendental work of our spiritual master > when compared to them? Unimaginable. Thank you, your servant, Sri > Mukunda dasa</p>
<p>Really, Jayadvaita Swami has &#8220;made a mountain out of a mole-hill&#8221;. There are not many significant typos at all and whatever typos are there do not in any way distract from the message of the books. Nor do they alter the meaning being presented by Srila Prabhupada at all as Jayadvaita&#8217;s changes, revisions and enlargements certainly do.</p>
<p>These original books are completely approved by Srila Prabhupada, used by him personally, and we have seen they have the potency to make thousands and thousands of devotees. If they are re-printed in the original form they will go on to make millions and millions of devotees&#8230; The potency is there.</p>
<p>There is no evidence to suggest Jayadvaita&#8217;s adulterated version of the Bhagavad-gita has the same potency. Really, since 1983, we have just seen so many problems in ISKCON&#8230;</p>
<p>So your proposal to reprint Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books in their original form can end all this. It is all-auspicious, it will make everyone happy&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as the petition is concerned, I&#8217;m not in a very good position to coordinate it. However, it would be better to get Jayadvaita Swami to take up a petition from devotees who agree he should be able to change anything at all he likes in Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books without anyone&#8217;s approval and without notifying anyone what he has done&#8230; I don&#8217;t think he will get anyone to sign it&#8230; So that is the main point. There is NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER for the BBT&#8217;s current program of changing Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books.</p>
<p>I have talked to many devotees from GBC&#8217;s and temple presidents and other devotees also, and have never come across anyone who agrees the BBT should change Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books&#8230; It&#8217;s quite crazy&#8230; The BBT have absolutely no support for this program.</p>
<p>If you still think the petition would be effective why not team up with Satsvarupa Maharaja and visit all the ISKCON temples with the petition yourselves? Together I think you can collect signatures from practically all the GBC members, all the Temple Presidents, and almost 100% of the general devotees and most of the congregational members and Hindus as well. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT FOR THESE CHANGES ANYWHERE!!</p>
<p>So I hope you and Satsvarupa Maharaja can take an active part in this, perhaps the most important project ever&#8211;restoring Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s original books. The responsibility was originally entrusted to Satsvarupa Maharaja and now you have come forward as well so I&#8217;m sure that your combined efforts will be very successful.</p>
<p>All glories to your service! Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!</p>
<p>Your servant</p>
<p>Madhudvisa dasa</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Do Not Change My Words&#8221; &#8212; Prabhupada</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gauridas Pandit dasa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Srila Prabhupada used to like to sit in his garden in Vrindavan especially in the mornings. He liked to hear his books read to him daily. One time Yasodanandan Prabhu was reading Sri Isopanisad when Srila Prabhupada stopped him and asked him to reread the last paragraph. After hearing it again Srila Prabhupada said, &#8220;Those [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Srila Prabhupada used to like to sit in his garden in Vrindavan especially in the mornings. He liked to hear his books read to him daily. One time Yasodanandan Prabhu was reading Sri Isopanisad when Srila Prabhupada stopped him and asked him to reread the last paragraph. After hearing it again Srila Prabhupada said, &#8220;Those are not my words! They are changing my words! Is my English not good enough?&#8221; Srila Prabhupada became very angry and continued, &#8220;This is the worst thing a disciple can do! Do not become like a leap frog and try to jump over the spiritual master thinking you know better than him. Tell them immediately [the editors] do not change my words!&#8221;</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada was very upset about the changes in his books. I never saw him get so angry any other time.</p>
<p>When Srila Prabhupada was asked by Revatinandan Prabhu if we could read Srila Bhaktisidhanta Sarasvati&#8217;s books; Srila Prabhupada said not the ones that were edited by his disciples. Srila Prabhupada also told him that we really couldn&#8217;t understand Bhaktisidhanta&#8217;s books. He said not even his Godbrothers could understand them. Then Srila Prabhupada said, &#8221; actually, he wrote those books for me.&#8221; (Memories of Srila Prabhupada)</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada translated the spiritual law books for the next 10,000 years, day and night, until his dying day. He translated constantly despite his busy preaching schedule. He did this to live on in the books. He said before he left the planet that he had given us everything in his books. He said the books were the manifestations of his ecstasy. He said if we read his books and cooperated together, every thing would go on nicely. To edit his books without his sanction is risky business. We should try to be absorbed in the ecstasy of the spiritual master and not try to alter it, thinking we can &#8216;improve upon&#8217; his ecstasy.</p>
<p>Some of the reasons given to justify the modern day editing are that the new edition is closer to what Srila Prabhupada said on the original tapes. Srila Prabhupada lectured on many verses many times and never said to change them. He authorized about three changes, not the 800+- we have in the new Bhagavad Gita. We need Bhagavad Gita As It Was! There is a nicer vibration to the original Srila Prabhupada approved version. I&#8217;m sure more devotees would be inspired to distribute the original. It would be nice if we could at least have both versions available. To each his own!</p>
<p>When a new book came out Srila Prabhupada would be in total bliss. I remember when he was so sick he could hardly sit up. When he heard that the new Srimad Bhagavatam had arrived and he asked to be propped up on his bed. He asked for his glasses and more light. As he marveled over the quality of the book and the excellent artwork tears came to his eyes. This gave him life.</p>
<p>Another time when Srila Prabhupada asked a devotee to read in the garden the devotee asked him why he liked to hear his own books so much. Srila Prabhupada said, &#8220;I did not write these books. Krishna wrote these books!&#8221;</p>
<p>When Srila Prabhupada came into the room and caught me reading the Srimad Bhagavatam, he smiled nicer than ever and told his secretary, &#8220;He&#8217;s reading in his spare time; this is very good!&#8221; I was surprised to see how happy Srila Prabhupada was because I was reading. Srila Prabhupada put everything into his books and we would be better off to accept them as is/was. They made so many devotees in the past and will in the future. They are tried and true!</p>
<p>Another important publication is the &#8216;Back To Godhead&#8217; magazine. Srila Prabhupada said the BTG and Hari Nama Sankirtan are &#8216;the backbone of our movement.&#8217; We need a mass distribution BTG. So many of us became devotees by getting a BTG one way or another. It should be cost effective say 25 to 50 cents so we can distribute it for a dollar or so. The old BTG&#8217;s are great. We could update the calendar and presto, the all-attractive &#8216;Back To Godhead!&#8217;</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada said the disease of the Americans is that we want to change everything. Let&#8217;s get rid of this disease and maintain what Srila Prabhupada has worked so hard to give us; without adulteration or change.</p>
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